Thursday, August 28, 2014

Is this the payoff for the silence of the FSSPX?

**** UPDATED 30 August 2014 with the video as gloria.tv & youtube.com removed the video.  Notice the FSSPX has added French text  to help explain the Mass ****

Fr. de Sivry celebrates the 1962 Universal Indult of John XXIII on 9 August 2014 at the tomb of Pope Saint Pius X in St. Peter's Basilica!  It's a start!  Note the modernist chasuble, the color is red instead of white is this because he is celebrating the the conciliar church's feast of Edith Stein, Martyr and not the traditional Feast of Saint John Mary Vianney, Confessor or did he misunderstand the FSSPX's calendar which reads Our Lady's Saturday?   Also did he forget to pack his maniple?  Be sure to check out the altar boys in gym shoes and street clothes! And don't forget the women without prayer veils! 





10 comments:

  1. God (the neo traditionalist) doesn't care how you dress--as long as you're attending the Latin mass!!!!! The Latin mass will give you morals; the Latin mass will teach you doctrine; the Latin mass will get you to heaven! (what a joke!)

    http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.be/2012/09/washingtons-imperial-wedding-archduke.html

    http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/09/royal-habsburg-traditional-latin-wedding.html

    Meanwhile:

    http://www.ansa.it/english/news/vatican/2014/08/27/church-musnt-exclude-unusual-couples_d65f7385-1a72-4e4d-ac2f-2aabe3816e7c.html

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/21/us-britain-muslim-veils-idUKKBN0GL0X120140821

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    1. Yes, exactly - these people put their "popes" before the Faith, their "sacraments" before the Faith. The FAITH has to come FIRST. This is what most of the 'trads' do NOT Get whatsoever. Bill Strojie called them, appropriately, the Mass before the Faith people.

      When Michael Davies said people were driving to Latin Masses because they preferred smells and bells and incense - or something along those lines - a lot of trads, myself included, howled and said, no Mr. Davies, it's because they were looking for the Real Presence in the Post Vatican II apostate world we live in. Now in hindsight I think, in all fairness, that Davies' summation of these "mass before the Faith" types might have been spot on.

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  2. I agree that the altar boys were unprepared to assist at Mass at the tomb of their founder. Some women are still too vain to wear the veil.

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  3. Peace of The Risen Christ be with all of You.

    I saw the video of the Holy Mass.

    I guess the mass was not planned and the permission to celebrate the mass was given in short terms by someone in St Peters Basilica who is in favor of fsspx and the traditional mass.

    I guess the chasuble was given to the fsspx priest by the same "someone" who allowed to celebrate the mass.

    I think the fsspx priest just took the chance and just said the mass on the tomb of St Pius X.

    I guess it was so short termed and not planned that the Altar Boys were not dressed properly as Acolytes.

    I think the fsspx priest was right to take this chance and just said the mass.

    St Peters Basilica and all the Altars in the St Peters Basilica were built for the "Old" Mass and on this ocassion a small battle was won in the spiritual warfare which is happening in our holy church.

    +PAX+

    R. URSUS B.

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    1. I think you are right. Much is being made of this and it is ridiculous because these "resistance" people, while sometimes making good points, are always so dedicated to finding "problems" within the SSPX that they can get a little picayune. For Heaven's sake, give people the benefit of the doubt, esp. when you don't know the particulars of the situation. For as long as the SSPX has existed, there have been women, especially in Europe, i.e. Germany, Switzerland and France, who do not cover their heads. This does not reflect any change within the Society. And for the 35 years I have been a Faithful of the Society, they have had boys serve unexpected Masses with their play-clothes or camping clothes. I remember when Archbishop Lefebvre showed up straight from the airport in KC to visit the Faithful dressed in his flying clothes, a clerical suit. He was very apologetic, but things like this happen even to good well-intentioned people.

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  4. He is actually saying the Mass "Salve, sancta parens" of Our Lady's Saturday. That makes the red vestment choice even more odd since the color does not correspond to the Mass.

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  5. Hmm....not sure what to make of this. Missa Salve sancte parens but wearing red. Most likely it was from the basilica sacristy. And the altar boys came in after father started in lay clothing....looks like a rush job, no preparation. Perhaps they were visiting St Peter's without expecting to say Mass there, and the priest just asked the PIC in passing whether he could say Mass and got an OK.

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  6. The French women obviously fear wearing the veil because some mussalman may see them and snatch them off to become his fourth wife. Archbishop Lefebvre celebrated either the NOM or the Mass of Paul VI (1964ed) at the tomb of his founder "because he didn't want to give scandal" ( to the Sacristan?). Maybe the altar boys also didn't want to give scandal.Remember Jorge reprimanded that altar boy for joining his hands?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QgP0YaOLT4

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  7. As you can see Gloria tv is control now for the moderador like Anthony Principe http://gloria.tv/user/8c61g58CF78 a new type of Apostate Catholic. He deleted most of the videos that can expose his idol Francis I.

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  8. The main problem for SSPX is not its position relative to liberal modernist Rome but in its mistaken policy of reelecting Bishop Fellay for another 12 years. This was always going to lead to mistaken assumptions about the mental set of the post-conciliar Vatican bureaucracy. It is in a rupture that thinks it's a continuity. Fellay is in a continuity that is tempted to provoke a rupture. Having bled over 100 priests and caused serious doubts among many of those remaining loyal, he would do better to first, call a complete halt in his own mind to rapprochement with an organisation that no longer corresponds to the pre-conciliar church of "Eternal Rome" and, second, to resign, permitting the election of either of the remaining two bishops.
    They have to realise that deals with the post-conciliar devil lead to compromises; compromises lead to subversion and subversion leads to the liberal modernist paradigm which is where the neo-catholic church lies at present. This papacy is the fulfilling of that model. Following it will be its absolute decline.

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