Saturday, August 9, 2014

Jorge Mario Bergoglio advised Tony Palmer not to become a Catholic

From the Boston Globe reporter, Austen Ivereigh, comes the article, Pope’s Protestant friend dies, but push for unity lives, which has several revelations in it. Among the revelations are details of the Anglican church Tony Palmer was a bishop in, tears came to Bergoglio's eyes because Palmer couldn't receive communion in the Novus Ordo church with his catholic family, and Bergoglio advised his friend not to convert to Catholicism!

Reporter Austen Ivereigh with Francis.

Pope’s Protestant friend dies, but push for unity lives
By Austen Ivereigh
LONDON – The English surgeons who fought to save the life of a badly mangled motorcyclist on the morning of July 20 might have guessed he was someone unusual, since the hospital was receiving calls from Rome, from the pope himself, asking for updates.
The silver Audi that slammed into a Protestant cleric named Bishop Tony Palmer in a quiet country lane that morning, however, left little chance of his surviving, and he died after a 10-hour emergency surgery. The news stunned not just his grieving wife and young adult children, but many across the Christian world who were aware that, behind the scenes, the unlikely friendship of Palmer and Pope Francis was the catalyst of an extraordinary historic breakthrough in relations between the Catholic Church and the evangelical world.
An articulate, laid-back, jovial South African in his early fifties, with a penchant for quirky clerical clothes, Palmer didn’t look or sound much like a conventional Anglican bishop. When I first met him in May, at a coffee shop in Bath, close to where he lived with his family, he explained that he had been ordained by the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches, or CEEC, whose presiding bishop is in Florida.
The CEEC, which was formed in the 1990s, is Anglican. Yet unlike the Episcopal Church in the United States, it’s not part of the Anglican Communion loyal to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Its leaders see themselves as part of a “convergence” movement, seeking to combine evangelical Christianity with the liturgy and sacraments typical of Catholicism.
That convergence, Palmer told me, “is a precursor to full unity between the Protestant and Catholic Churches.”
Born in Britain, Palmer grew up in South Africa where he worked as a medical underwriter and met and married Emiliana, a non-practising Italian Catholic. After a sudden conversion they began worshipping in an evangelical church. Palmer worked for some years in South Africa for Texas-based Kenneth Copeland Ministries, pioneer of the controversial “prosperity Gospel” which claims that God rewards his faithful with material blessings.
On trips back to Italy to visit Emiliana’s family, the Palmers encountered the Catholic Charismatic Renewal, a movement within the Catholic Church which has absorbed the Pentecostal evangelical traditions of praise-style worship, healing, and an expectation of spiritual gifts. Through the charismatics, Emiliana returned to the Catholic Church, and the Palmers with their young children began attending Sunday Mass. In the 1990s they began spending long periods in Italy, where they were invited to speak at Catholic churches.
In 2003 they moved to Italy full-time to work with Matteo Calisi, head of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal in Italy. Palmer increasingly felt at home in the Catholic Church but was unable to affiliate an ecumenical group he founded called the “Ark Community” with Rome because not all his members were Catholics.
Palmer instead found a home in the CEEC, which claims about a million adherents and 6,000 clergy. After further study the CEEC ordained him a priest, giving him a particular mission to Christian unity, and later consecrated him as a bishop. Palmer and Calisi began doing joint missions around the world — which is what took him to Buenos Aires in 2006. Its archbishop, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, had overcome his reservations about the charismatic renewal and enthusiastically backed a 6,000-strong joint Catholic-evangelical gathering that year in Buenos Aires’ Luna Park stadium.
Palmer and Calisi and four others went to meet the cardinal prior to beginning their mission in his diocese. When Palmer told Bergoglio that he was an Anglican evangelical with a Catholic wife and children, the cardinal was curious: how did they live that difference? Palmer told him that it worked very well, but that, since he led his family back to the Catholic Church, he was no longer allowed to take Communion with them.
When Palmer told him that his children asked him why he would join a church that separated a family, he said that Bergoglio’s eyes filled with tears.
“His heart broke,” Palmer recalled.
The cardinal asked if they could remain in touch and meet regularly. Over the years, the Buenos Aires cardinal and the evangelical bishop formed a deep bond, staying in touch by telephone and email between face-to-face meetings.
Palmer and Bergoglio had intense discussions about Christian separation, using the analogy of apartheid in South Africa. They found common ground in believing that institutional separation breeds fear and misunderstanding. Bergoglio, whom Palmer called “Father Mario,” acted as a spiritual father to the Protestant cleric, calming him (“he wanted to make me a reformer, not a rebel,” Palmer told me) and encouraging him in his mission to Christian unity.
At one point, when Palmer was tired of living on the frontier and wanted to become Catholic, Bergoglio advised him against conversion for the sake of the mission.
“We need to have bridge-builders”, the cardinal told him.
In 2012 Palmer’s family moved to England, to allow their son to prepare to enter university there. Palmer had little idea of Bergoglio’s rising star, but received an email three days before the conclave of March 2013 asking for his prayers. When he saw Pope Francis emerge on the balcony, Palmer was thrilled but assumed that their friendship would be over.
Shortly after the New Year, however, he received a call. Francis wanted to know when he was next in Rome, could he come by? On January 14, Palmer spent the morning with Francis in the Vatican residence where he now lives, the Domus Santa Marta.
“We didn’t have an agenda,” Palmer recalled. “He told me that we are brothers and nothing will change our friendship.”
Palmer told him that the following week he would be addressing 3,000 evangelicals at Kenneth Copeland’s international leaders’ conference in Fort Worth, Texas, and would he like to send a word of greeting?
“Let’s make a video,” Francis replied.
“You want me to pull out my iPhone and record you?” asked Palmer, astonished.
“Yes, exactly,” the pope answered.
When he presented the recording to the Pentecostals in Texas, Palmer said that few Protestants knew that the Catholic and Lutheran Churches had signed a historic declaration in 1999 settling the doctrinal issue of the Reformation.
“We preach the same Gospel now,” Palmer told them. “The protest is over.”
Then he played the video, in which Francis addressed them as brothers and sisters and said that with just “two rules” — love God above all, and your neighbor as yourself — “we can move ahead.” He spoke of the sin of separation, and his yearning for reconciliation. “Let us allow our yearning to grow, because this will propel us to find each other, to embrace one another, and together to worship Jesus Christ as the only Lord of History,” he told them.
The delegates reacted rapturously. After the video went viral Palmer began to be inundated by requests from evangelical leaders to be part of what was happening. “People said: this is a new day, this is what we have been waiting for.” Palmer had to cancel his teaching commitments and his own studies simply to cope with the correspondence. He reported it all to Pope Francis in a meeting in April, who was amazed.
Cosa facciamo? “What do we do?” he asked Palmer.
On June 24, Palmer took a group of evangelical leaders who jointly reach more than 700 million people to meet and lunch with Francis, which he reported to me a few days later, as he left for two weeks in South Africa. The delegates included Copeland, the televangelist James Robison, as well as Geoff Tunnicliffe, head of the Worldwide Evangelical Alliance. They told Francis they wanted to accept his invitation to seek visible unity with the Bishop of Rome.
Palmer handed the pope a proposed Declaration of Faith in Unity for Mission the evangelicals had drawn up, which they proposed would be signed by both the Vatican and leaders of the major Protestant churches in Rome in 2017, on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation and the 50th anniversary of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.
Palmer told me the draft Declaration has three elements: the Nicean-Constantinople Creed, which Catholics and evangelicals share; the core of the Catholic-Lutheran declaration of 1999 making clear there is no disagreement over justification by faith; as well as a final section asserting that Catholics and evangelicals are now “united in mission because we are declaring the same Gospel.”
The closing section speaks of the importance of freedom of conscience and the need for Catholics and evangelicals to respect each other’s mission fields and treat the other with respect, not as rivals. Francis had taken the draft and said he would think about it. Palmer and I agreed to speak again when Francis got back to him, but that was not to be.
Last Wednesday, in Bath, Palmer’s funeral was a Catholic Requiem Mass at which most of the congregation were evangelicals. He was buried in a Catholic cemetery, united at last with the Church he felt at home in.
Pope Francis sent a message, which was tearfully read out by Emiliana Palmer. In it he said he and Palmer were close friends, and like father and son, “Many times we prayed in the same Spirit.” He praised Palmer as a brave, passionate and pure-hearted man in love with Jesus, who left a precious legacy in his passion for Christian unity.
Francis created the strong impression that the work he and Palmer had begun would continue.
“We must be encouraged by his zeal,” the pope said.

11 comments:

  1. Dear Call Me Jorge. The Boston Globe has finally spilled the beans on Matteo Calisi and his relationship with Tony Palmer -- and it wasn't super-Catholic-journalist John Allen who wrote the article!

    This explains Calisi's emerging from the shadows to do an interview with Zenit. The interview was a pre-emptive propaganda strike to try to downplay his role in promoting charismatic/pentecostal/evangelical style worship in the Catholic Church and specifically in Argentina.

    I'm still wondering who was the driver of the "silver Audi" that ran head first into Palmer on his motorcycle. The only thing I have heard is that he was arrested but then free'd on bail. Shouldn't there be some sort of trial? And shouldn't there be some publicity surrounding it?

    This Boston Globe article is the first that I have heard that bergoglio called the hospital or that he sent a message to Palmer's widow.

    Reading a little deeper into the Globe article it looks to me like a propaganda attempt to gain sympathy for a movement to form an "ecumenical union" between the Catholic Church and evangelical style protestants.

    They are shamelessly using Palmer's tragic death and trying to turn Palmer into a sort of saint/martyr of the "ecumenical" movement.

    if you recall, John Allen actually predicted something like this would happen -- that Palmer's death would be a catalyst for "ecumenism".

    Now it seems to be happening. Or rather I should say that those who control the media are pushing it to happen through the use of propaganda.

    Regarding the accuracy of Allen's prediction -- it's not that he has prophetic powers .... It's that he has the insider knowledge to know how those who control the media are planning to use Palmer's death to manipulate public opinion.

    Call me a conspiracy kook, but I have been mostly right so far on the Palmer/Calisi story.... the "professional journalists" are just now starting to catch up. But of course they have to put their liberal/socialist/marxist/anti-Catholic/masonic/atheist spin on things in order to manipulate public opinion in the direction of a One World Church and a One World Government....

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  2. FROM HUTTON GIBSON NEWSLETTER DECEMBER 2005, No. 66, The War Is Now!, Alliance For Catholic Tradition, pg. LXVI-8

    Objection: Again and again you misinterpret your quotations of Paul VI. They are very often susceptible of suspicion of orthodoxy. - Sexagenarian novus ordo priest.

    Reply: When I read his ambiguities I relate them to his actions and omissions. I grew up in the Catholic Church, which your generation has seen only in childhood. When these changes began in the sixties, I, an educated Catholic, graduate of a seminary high school, and father of ten, went reluctantly along with "my" pope. If vernacular would bring in converts, why not? Never having read John's Mater et Magistra, I was mildly scandalized when National Review criticized it under the heading, Mater Si, Magistra No!

    The Mass translations were literally dreadful, eliciting Bob Considine's comment that they should have been done by some one who understood English and Latin. The changes accumulated to the extent that we who had assisted at Mass for forty years and more needed a "commentator" to tell us when to sit, stand, and even sometimes kneel. And the changes continued, to the point that each Sunday I came out of the church raging. How, I asked, could proper worship of God enrage one who had assisted thereat for fifty years? Nor was I alone. Literally millions left the Church, including at least 100,000 priests, not all of whom were womanizers.

    In 1968, at age 50, I moved my family to Australia We spent ten or eleven weeks in Ireland en route, and never realized that a new rite had come in. I have often wondered how the novus ordo missae took over Ireland. It finally hit me when I again visited the place last year that their vernacular is Gaelic, which most of them barely understand. But it was another way of getting back at the English

    In Australia I enrolled my younger children in Catholic schools. A year later I discovered what they were "taught" in religion class, and entered a correspondence with Cardinal Freeman over the heretical content. He referred me to his education department which denied the heresy and referred me to the school. Obtaining no satisfaction, I removed my children and sent them to state schools.

    Then Fr. Ffoulkes, who had said the Latin Mass as modified by John XXIII, retired from the Asquith parish, and I was requested to attend classes because my youngest was to be confirmed. Why? We had a new sacrament! When I objected I was referred to Bishop Thomas Muldoon, the conservative, who asked what formula would suit me!

    I discovered the Latin Mass Society of Australia and the fact that we had a new rite of "mass," which would be the only rite allowed from late 1972. All my ancestors from the time of St. Patrick had the same Mass and sacraments, but we were to be denied them. Clearly we would not belong to the Communion of Saints! I read the decrees and documents of the Second Vatican Council, which confirmed this. Then I saw that the postconciliar "Church" exceeded the heretical V-2 Council in innovation. I soon discovered that the rot was everywhere, and imposed from the top. I realized that we had no pope, invisible hierarchy, and few priests, most of whom had not realized that the Church had been hijacked.

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  3. Hutton Gibson continued from december 2005:

    I eventually discovered enough feet of clay to classify Paul VI as a centipede. He would not even come to his window to see three years of Una Voce rallies in which thousands came to St. Peter's to support traditional worship, but he romped into a charismatic coven in Rome with hands enthusiastically flung to emphasize his vocal "Hallelujah!"

    He told the United Nations that it was the last and only hope of the world, in a speech smacking strongly of Freemasonry.

    He betrayed World War II Italian troops fighting in Russia - and Pius XII's missionary bishops sent into Russia.

    As Archbishop of Milan he negotiated with the Anglicans.

    He replaced our Mass and every sacrament with human, by definition invalid, institutions. He thereby involved Catholics in idolatry. He consulted a Synod of Bishops on introduction of the novus ordo missae, and overrode its decision. He retained it with no public consultation whatsoever, refusing to recognize the enormous drop in "mass" attendance.

    He unleashed the new nun.

    He wore the ephod (Jewish or Masonic?) instead of his pectoral cross at numerous official functions - some pictured in L'Osservatore Romano.

    He promoted evolution and world government. He supported Mandela and destroyed the Portuguese colonies.

    He conspired to keep the Council from condemnation of communism.

    He miminized fast and abstinence (as old as the Church).

    He kept contraception out of the Council, and implied that he would loosen its ban, thus promoting enormous violations. He finally released Humanae Vitae, a heavily diluted version of Casti Connubii, and flaunted it to "prove" his orthodoxy, while he permitted nearly all Episcopal Conferences to oppose it with mere slaps on the wrist.

    With all the heretics loose he excommunicated only one priest, Fr. Saenz Y Arriaga, the Mexican Jesuit, for writing a book (completely orthodox) The New Montinian Church, which documented the Jewish ancestry of the Montinis.

    In violation of the papal oath, he innovated and replaced on every possible occasion.

    When he came on the scene prepared for him by Roncalli, he found a church under attack, and he dismantled all our defenses. He presided over the worst decline in Church history.

    He participated greatly in the plot to "elect" Roncalli, who knew going into the 1958 Conclave that he would emerge as "pope." He plotted with Roncalli to succeed him. He and Roncalli set themselves up as pastoral experts without one single day as parish priests.

    They lifted the ban on Freemasonry.

    Neither ever did one thing to benefit the Church.

    They far exceeded the possibility that all this havoc was accidental - which is, in any case, theologically impossible. It was deliberately wrought.

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  4. If Tony Palmer had a Catholic Requim Mass does that mean he was "secretly Catholic", if there is such a thing?

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    1. As far as I know, even in the Novus Ordo they only conduct funeral masses for Catholics. Tony Palmer may have been a secret Catholic, or he may have converted on his deathbed in hospital, or his wife may have convinced the priest who performed the funeral mass that her husband was really a Catholic all along despite the Anglican bishop pretentions.

      BTW, I remember seeing the announcement for his funeral and it was indeed taking place in a Roman Catholic church. My first thought was that he converted in the hospital. He was alive for some ten hours after the accident, so assuming he was conscious for at least part of that time, he could have talked to a priest.

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    2. Anonymous - your 'reasoning' here smacks of the same naive pollyanna-ism which is why the judaeo masonic usurpers and infiltrators have been so wildly successful in being able to take over what was once the Church and replace it with the anti Church

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  5. Dear Call Me Jorge. I have written a short article on Austin Ivereigh, the author of this Boston Globe article about Tony Palmer. Here is a link to my article:

    http://publicvigil.blogspot.com/2014/08/who-is-austin-ivereigh.html

    Basically Ivereigh seems to be pretty much the British equivalent of John Allen.

    My conclusion is that he is a paid journalistic agent -- just like Malachi Martin before them. The goal of such agents is to use the media to undermine Church teaching by pushing the Church in a liberal direction. Cui bono?

    Therefore, I would be very careful about certain new "facts" offered by Ivereigh in this Globe article on Tony Palmer.

    For instance, how do we know that "the hospital was receiving calls from Rome, from the pope himself"? We only have Ivereigh's word for it. And it seems very unlikely that either the hospital or the Vatican would comment on this either to confirm or deny it.

    Isn't it odd that "the pope himself" would call the hospital? Wouldn't you expect that it would be some secretary that would actually make the phone call?

    Is this just a journalistic trick to "spice up" the article and make it seem like Ivereigh has some special insider knowledge? Who told Ivereigh about this? Why would they give him this kind of private information?

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  6. Dear Call Me Jorge. Another day another, heresy from bergoglio.

    The latest is that it has been reported that bergoglio ordered that Tony Palmer be buried as a Catholic BISHOP!

    Now, I am sure that bergoglio's defenders will either completely ignore this (Michael Voris) or vehemently claim that whoever said this is a liar (Mark Shea).

    Sure, along with all the other "liars" who have "misquoted" bergoglio. There sure are a lot of people that want to put words in bergoglio's mouth (at the National Catholic Register).

    Anyway, I have left more comments over on my blog in an article aptly titled "Did bergoglio order that NON-Catholic Tony Palmer be buried as a Catholic BISHOP!!!"

    http://publicvigil.blogspot.com/2014/08/did-bergoglio-order-that-non-catholic.html

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    1. Wow, Francis never ceases to amaze us!

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    2. Michael - thanks for your layman's true Catholic journalistic efforts on behalf of the beleaguered flock out here. All of you, such as Michael, that are making these individual efforts to promote the truth about what these people are really up to - I pray that Our Lord Jesus Christ will richly bless you and yours. That includes you too Call Me Jorge.

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    3. Dear Call Me Jorge. There's more....

      I just found out that "bishop" Tony Palmer's remains were placed in a place of very high honor.

      They were placed in the Crypt of the Eyre Family. They are a family of Recusants.

      I have more details on my blog in the article titled " 'Bishop' Tony Palmer's blasphemous final resting place".

      http://publicvigil.blogspot.com/2014/08/tony-palmer-blasphemous-final-resting.html

      I don't think I am exaggerating the significance of this final "gesture", but please let me know if you disagree.

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