Thursday, October 30, 2014

married with children, 'bishops' Robert Wise & Quintin Moore write about their visit with Francis

Robert Wise is, first and foremost, a storyteller. Growing up as a child adopted from a Jewish family that knew the Nazi Concentration Camps  Robert was always intrigued by stories of injustice. In an attempt to bridge the gap between secular and Christian markets, Robert writes to motivate his readers not only to empathy and compassion, but also to act and join the struggle against injustice. (source)

I have just returned from two weeks in Rome and time spent in private discussions with Pope Francis. As you may be aware, the Vatican was holding a landmark assembly dealing with issues facing families, divorced and remarried Catholics, as well as the gay community. During this time, the Pope met privately with me at an early morning hour to discuss bringing a new unity between Protestants and Catholics. Since I am a Protestant Archbishop, such conversations were highly irregular – and vital!

Several years ago my colleague, fellow bishop, and dear friend Tony Palmer and I were in Bari, Italy when the Roman Catholic Church signed an agreement accepting Martin Luther’s position on “Justification by Faith.” Pope Francis now maintains this concord has ended all hostilities between Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church.

The Pope had become our close friend when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tony had become like a son to Fr. Bergoglio (now Pope Francis). As their relationship developed, Tony and I were shocked when the Archbishop became the Pope after Benedict resigned. Last spring, the Pope called on his cell phone and asked us to come to Rome. He particularly wanted us to carry the message of “unity without uniformity” to the Protestants world. The Pope wasn’t asking Protestants to join the Roman Church, but wanted Protestants and Romans to become friends again as well as brothers and sisters as Jesus prayed we would  all be. (John 17)

On July 20, 2014, at the age of 48 Tony was tragically killed in a motorcycle accident in Bath, England. Obviously, this tragedy threw our worlds into complete turmoil. Although I had retired as Director of Ecumenical Relations of the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches, I was called back to help formulate a Synod Tony was working on in Rome and to re-establish our connection with the Pope. During the past two weeks in Rome, I have been working on these issues.

The Pope has asked me to continue Tony’s mission and has called on his wife Emiliana Palmer to head the Ark Community’s ministry that had become the vehicle for communication of unity. The Pope’s title “Apostolic Representative for Christian Unity” bestowed on Tony has now been transferred to me and I will continue Tony’s work. Nothing about this effort will prohibit these blogs and they will continue as usual with a an added dimension.

My new primary mission is to tell the world that Protestants and Roman Catholics have a new compatibility even though many of our views differ. We strive to be one in the days that are before us.

Quintin Moore is the lead pastor of The Father’s House, a Convergent congregation in Hutchinson, Kansas. For 28 years Quintin and his wife Annie have served faithfully the vision of revealing the unconditional love and grace of God to everyone. Since 2011 Quintin has served as the Presiding Bishop of the Christian Communion International, a family of Christian churches and worship communities around the world formed largely as a result of the Convergence Movement. He founded the Diocese of the Restoration in 2004 which serves as a covering for churches regionally. (source)

What did you do in Rome? Where did you go? What did you see?

“I was in Rome to visit with Pope Francis.”
“Really!” “Why?”

The simple answer is “he is a friend of a friend.” My friend Tony Palmer was a friend of Pope Francis and friends always want their friends to know each other. Before Bishop Tony’s death, he had arranged for several of his friends to meet with Pope Francis. Bishop Tony and Pope Francis shared a dream together. They dreamed that the prayer that Jesus prayed in John 17, would become a reality in our lives.

“Our world needs unity; this is an age in which we all need unity. Not just unity for the sake of the social economy, but a unity that answers the very prayer of Jesus.” (Pope Francis)

“…that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.” (John 17:21 NKJV).

So I have been with Pope Francis because I am a friend of a friend who believes that Jesus prayed for and desires for us to live in unity with Him and with each other, so that unbelievers might come to know Him.

Jesus told us, “A new commandment I give to you, that you also may love one another. By this all will  know that you are my Disciples, if you have love for one another.” (John 13:34-35)
Unity is the manifestation of our love for each other. “For the love of Christ compels us…” (2 Corn. 5:14) to walk in unity and friendship with one another. Jesus said, “…I have called you friends” (John 15:15). “Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends” (John 15:13). If He gave His life so we could be friends it is time, past time that we reach out to one another and be friends.

So why did I come to visit with Pope Francis? (who by the way wanted to be addressed as Father Francis) Because he is my friend! And friends visit with each other. They share their weakness’s and their strength’s. They share their dreams, their hopes and their hearts with each other. Friends pray for each other.

Father Francis says, “Whenever we Christians are enclosed in our groups, our movements, our parishes, in our little world we remain closed, and the same thing happens to us that happens to anything closed. When a room is closed it begins  to get dank. If a person is closed up in that room he or she becomes ill. Whenever Christians are enclosed in their groups, parishes and movements, they take ill.”

It is time for Christians to be healed. Healed of the wounded and broken relationship between brothers and sisters. This healing requires our cooperation.

My friend Tony used to say, “division is diabolical, diversity is divine.” The Church is diverse but she is also called to the “unity of the Spirit in the bond of Peace” (Eph. 4:3)

Father Francis is “a friend of a friend” who has become my friend. He encouraged us to share the Life of Jesus with everyone! He says, “Life grows by being given away, and it weakens in isolation and comfort. Indeed, those who enjoy life most are those who leave security on the shore and become excited by the mission of communicating life to others. When the Church summons Christians to take up the task of evangelization, she is simply pointing to the source of authentic personal fulfillment.”
We are all called “to do the work of an evangelist” (2 Tim. 4:5). In order for Evangelism to have it’s greatest success it needs for the church to live in unity. “… then the world will know you are my disciples” (John 13:350, and “…. that the world may believe that You sent Me” (John 17:21).

It was my privilege to have met Father Francis…. to share the dream of unity, to pray for unity, and to look for ways of living in unity.

Jesus prayed that prayer and I believe that it will be answered as we contemplate and cooperate with the Holy Spirit.

Thank you Tony! Your life, your dream, your ministry has not been forgotten and it will never end.
The Miracle of Unity …. has not only begun, but it is growing!

Kenneth Copeland, the late Tony Palmer, Francis, and James 'high-five' Robison hold hands at the first Evangelical Lunch on 23 June 2014.


  1. “Whenever we Christians are enclosed in our groups, our movements, our parishes, in our little world we remain closed, and the same thing happens to us that happens to anything closed. When a room is closed it begins to get dank. If a person is closed up in that room he or she becomes ill. Whenever Christians are enclosed in their groups, parishes and movements, they take ill.”

    An emotional appeal to embrace Indifferentism

    1. It's called liberal modernist claptrap. New church propagates it daily.

  2. I watched parts of 2 videos with that guy Kenneth Copeland and Tony Palmer. I couldn't stand to watch much more than a couple of minutes of Copeland because he is such an obvious charlatan and huckster. But in one of the videos, Palmer was talking to a bunch of people in one of those airplane hangar gatherings and he stated, probably about 3 or 4 times that the pentecostals he was addressing were 'all catholics (sic) now' because of the agreement that had been signed with the Vatican in 1999 by one of the Lutheran sects. He kept saying 'the protest is over' and there isn't anything to separate us. The Vatican had accepted the notion of being 'saved through faith' alone, but through the faith came good works. Then that now infamous video of Bergoglio (sounding and looking ill or drugged) was shown to the gathering. It's the video of Bergoglio telling the pentecostals we are all 'brothers', etc., etc. I find it curious that Palmer died very shortly after those videos were recorded. I wonder if he was letting too much cat out of the bag too soon by insisting 'we are all catholics' during his speech. Call me suspicious, but it's odd that he'd be killed in a head-on crash with a car going the wrong way. It would appear they never found the driver of the car....

    This excerpt from Patheos:
    Police have confirmed the man died at Southmead Hospital on Sunday evening and his family are being supported by a specially trained family liaison officer.

    Officers are appealing for witnesses to the collision, which happened at 6.50am on Sunday on the A368 at Chelwood, to come forward.

    A silver coloured Audi 4 was travelling from Blagdon towards Chelwood Bridge when it was involved in a collision with a motorcycle travelling in the opposite direction.

    Police are keen to speak to the driver of a Ford Cougar, which is believed to have been on the A368 at the time of the incident, who could have useful information to help the investigation.