Friday, November 28, 2014

What's the prescription for dearth of Catholics in Turkey?

...more dialogue!

In his first address the Pope said Turkey was 'precious to every Christian' because of its history
Below: the English translation of the Pope’s first address in Turkey given at the presidential palace. (Credit: National Catholic Register.)

Mr President
Mr Prime Minister,
Distinguished Authorities,
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am pleased to visit your country so rich in natural beauty and history, and filled with vestiges of ancient civilisations. It is a natural bridge between two continents and diverse cultures. This land is precious to every Christian for being the birthplace of St Paul, who founded various Christian communities here, and for hosting the first seven Councils of the Church. It is also renowned for the site near Ephesus which a venerable tradition holds to be the “Home of Mary”, the place where the Mother of Jesus lived for some years. It is now a place of devotion for innumerable pilgrims from all over the world, not only for Christians, but also for Muslims.
Yet, the reasons why Turkey is held with such regard and appreciation are not only linked to its past and ancient monuments, but also have to do with the vitality of its present, the hard work and generosity of its people, and its role in the concert of nations.
It brings me great joy to have this opportunity to pursue with you a dialogue of friendship, esteem and respect, in the footsteps of my predecessors Blessed Paul VI, Saint John Paul II and Benedict XVI. This dialogue was prepared for and supported by the work of the then Apostolic Delegate, Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli, who went on to become Saint John XXIII, and by the Second Vatican Council.
Today what is needed is a dialogue which can deepen the understanding and appreciation of the many things which we hold in common. Such a dialogue will allow us to reflect sensibly and serenely on our differences, and to learn from them.
There is a need to move forward patiently in the task of building a lasting peace, one founded on respect for the fundamental rights and duties rooted in the dignity of each person. In this way, we can overcome prejudices and unwarranted fears, leaving room for respect, encounter, and the release of more positive energies for the good of all.
To this end, it is essential that all citizens – Muslim, Jewish and Christian – both in the provision and practice of the law, enjoy the same rights and respect the same duties. They will then find it easier to see each other as brothers and sisters who are travelling the same path, seeking always to reject misunderstandings while promoting cooperation and concord. Freedom of religion and freedom of expression, when truly guaranteed to each person, will help friendship to flourish and thus become an eloquent sign of peace.
The Middle East, Europe and the world all await this maturing of friendship. The Middle East, in particular, has for too long been a theatre of fratricidal wars, one born of the other, as if the only possible response to war and violence must be new wars and further acts of violence.
How much longer must the Middle East suffer the consequences of this lack of peace? We must not resign ourselves to ongoing conflicts as if the situation can never change for the better! With the help of God, we can and we must renew the courage of peace! Such courage will lead to a just, patient and determined use of all available means of negotiation, and in this way achieve the concrete goals of peace and sustainable development.
Mr President, interreligious and intercultural dialogue can make an important contribution to attaining this lofty and urgent goal, so that there will be an end to all forms of fundamentalism and terrorism which gravely demean the dignity of every man and woman and exploit religion.
Fanaticism and fundamentalism, as well as irrational fears which foster misunderstanding and discrimination, need to be countered by the solidarity of all believers. This solidarity must rest on the following pillars: respect for human life and for religious freedom, that is the freedom to worship and to live according to the moral teachings of one’s religion; commitment to ensuring what each person requires for a dignified life; and care for the natural environment. The peoples and the states of the Middle East stand in urgent need of such solidarity, so that they can “reverse the trend” and successfully advance a peace process, repudiating war and violence and pursuing dialogue, the rule of law, and justice.
Sadly, to date, we are still witnessing grave conflicts. In Syria and Iraq, particularly, terrorist violence shows no signs of abating. Prisoners and entire ethnic populations are experiencing the violation of the most basic humanitarian laws. Grave persecutions have taken place in the past and still continue today to the detriment of minorities, especially – though not only – Christians and Yazidis. Hundreds of thousands of persons have been forced to abandon their homes and countries in order to survive and remain faithful to their religious beliefs.
Turkey, which has generously welcomed a great number of refugees, is directly affected by this tragic situation on its borders; the international community has the moral obligation to assist Turkey in taking care of these refugees. In addition to providing much needed assistance and humanitarian aid, we cannot remain indifferent to the causes of these tragedies. In reaffirming that it is licit, while always respecting international law, to stop an unjust aggressor, I wish to reiterate, moreover, that the problem cannot be resolved solely through a military response.
What is required is a concerted commitment on the part of all, based on mutual trust, which can pave the way to lasting peace, and enable resources to be directed, not to weaponry, but to the other noble battles worthy of man: the fight against hunger and sickness, the promotion of sustainable development and the protection of creation, and the relief of the many forms of poverty and marginalization of which there is no shortage in the world today.
Turkey, by virtue of its history, geographical position and regional influence, has a great responsibility: the choices which Turkey makes and its example are especially significant and can be of considerable help in promoting an encounter of civilizations and in identifying viable paths of peace and authentic progress.
May the Most High bless and protect Turkey, and help the nation to be a strong and fervent peacemaker!
full video of visit to Atatürk Mausoleum & speech


  1. "They will then find it easier to see each other as brothers and sisters who are travelling the same path, seeking always to reject misunderstandings while promoting cooperation and concord."

    Thus, speaks a liberal modernist who holds no account of the intentions of Jews and Mahomatens which is to have global domination and the rid the world of Christianity. They don't have rational brains to reflect with.

  2. Hi CMJ,

    Here are my comments.

    Religious demographics in Turkey:

    Muslim - 96.83% (80-85% Sunni, 15-20% Alevi)
    Christian - 0.13% (60% Armenian Orthodox, 20% Syrian Orthodox, 10% Protestant, 8% Chaldean Catholic, 2% Greek Orthodox)
    Jewish - 0.03% (96% Sephardi, 4% Ashkenazi)
    Bahá'í Faith - 0.01%
    Atheist - 3%

    Conclusion? You're free to practice whatever religion you want in Turkey -- as long as it's Muslim. That's the Muslim version of "freedom of religion".

    Why is bergoglio mentioning jews in his Turkey talk? There are 17,000 jews in Turkey out of a population of 77 million -- not even a drop in the bucket...

    Why is bergoglio talking about jews? Because although he is the pope who is supposed to be representing Catholics, he acts like a jewish satrap appointed by his jewish masters to be the head of the Catholic Church in order to watch over their interests.

    The whole speech could have been written by one of his rabbi friends -- and if you ask me probably was.

    This is exactly the jewish propaganda of peace, brotherhood and religious freedom. (Also the masonic ideals of liberte, fraternite, egalite).

    While the jews preach this propaganda to others, they don't follow it themselves. I.E. Israel -- the Jewish State.

    This propaganda is just a way to convince Christians (and other religions) to commit suicide. Since the jews do not have the numbers to kill off their enemies, they convince their enemies to kill themselves.

    The amazing thing is that this satanic magic spell works and we see how the Catholic Church has gone through "auto-demolition" -- and continues along this path even in the face of irrefutable evidence that we are on a path to extinction.

    Also notice that bergoglio's speech is specifically tailored to the assumption of his muslim audience that Jesus Christ is not the Messiah and the Son of God, but simply a prophet. And that therefore Christians are simply followers of the prophet Jesus. More blasphemy coming from the unholy lips of bergoglio! (Noticed he slipped that knife into the backs of unsuspecting Catholics who assume that bergoglio is actually referring to Jesus the Son of God. He's not!)

    he even has the nerve to finish his address with "the most high". What does he mean by that? he obviously intends for his muslim audience to interpret this as a reference to "allah the most high". More blasphemy! Trinity? What Trinity?

    It just gets worse every day.

    Yours in Christ the Most High Son of God,

    1. Michael - yes, your 'assessment' is on the money as usual. WE all need to pray, as Anna Catherine Emmerich begged the Faithful to do, for the Church of Darkness to leave Rome. This should be said at least once a day by all remaining Catholics in the world who 'get' the apostasy, at this point.

  3. But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Mat 12:36-37

    He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.
    Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come... Matt 12:30-32

    The only thing one can say re: Jesuits as he is there witness is that God does what he says: He said, "Go, and tell this people: 'Keep on listening, but do not perceive; Keep on looking, but do not understand.' "Render the hearts of this people insensitive, Their ears dull, And their eyes dim, Otherwise they might see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, Understand with their hearts, And return and be healed."… Isa6:9

    "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them." John 12:40

    Apparently also in Koran: "And the example of those who disbelieve, is as that of him who shouts to the (flock of sheep) that hears nothing but calls and cries. (They are) deaf, dumb and blind. So they do not understand." Quran - 2:171

    Every word that comes out of his mouth God turns to dung - I certainly don't see anything to admire about Jesuit 'mind' or 'scholarship'/discipline or training from listening to him. If this is the caliber, no wonder the order is dying. Good riddance to rubbish!

  4. Bat Ye'or wrote The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam, From JIhad to Dhimmitude buy it and read it for our Pope and Our Cross and Our bishops will not teach us the truth about Mahometanism.

    O, and did you realize that if it were not for the cooperation of the Eastern Heretics (monophysites) and the Greeks, then the Mahometans would not have been able to hold the lands they conquered?