Tuesday, May 26, 2015

Francis feels like saying something heretical...

...and he does!

Francis is at it again, making another video for his Protestant 'brothers in blood'.  This one was for the Celebration of Christian Unity event held by the John 17 Movement in Phoenix, Arizona.  Francis' usual Protestant friends were all there.  Here's the flyer for the event:



What is interesting is that at 4 minutes 16 seconds in his video message Francis says,

"I feel like saying something that may sound controversial, or even heretical, perhaps."  

Apparently Francis has been so poorly catechized he doesn't recognize that his words which follow this statement,

"It is he who is persecuting Christians today, he who is anointing us with (the blood of) martyrdom. He knows that Christians are disciples of Christ: that they are one, that they are brothers! He doesn’t care if they are Evangelicals, or Orthodox, Lutherans, Catholics or Apostolic…he doesn’t care! They are Christians. And that blood (of martyrdom) unites. Today, dear brothers and sisters, we are living an “ecumenism of blood”"

...are in fact heresy!   What God is Francis praying to which makes him think this way?

The original Spanish is even stronger than the English above.

Y me viene a la mente decir algo que puede ser una insensatez, o quizás una herejía, no sé. Pero hay alguien que ‘sabe’ que, pese a las diferencias, somos uno. Y es el que nos persigue. El que persigue hoy día a los cristianos, el que nos unge con el martirio, sabe que los cristianos son discípulos de Cristo: ¡que son uno, que son hermanos! No le interesa si son evangélicos, ortodoxos, luteranos, católicos, apostólicos…¡no le interesa! Son cristianos. Y esa sangre se junta. Hoy estamos viviendo, queridos hermanos, el “ecumenismo de la sangre”. Esto nos tiene que animar a hacer lo que estamos haciendo hoy: orar, hablar entre nosotros, acortar distancias, hermanarnos cada vez más.

Here's what Francis literally said,
“And it comes to my mind to say something that may be foolish or perhaps a heresy, I don't know.”

Below is the video, a link to the Vatican's  transcript of Francis' remarks in Spanish, and another website's English translation (which is poor in areas).


Francis' message to John 17 'All be One'



Spanish from the Vatican's website:





English from Salt & Light TV:


Pope Francis has sent a videomessage on the occasion of the Day for Christian Unity which took place in Phoenix, Arizona in the United States on May 23rd.

Below is the English translation of the Pope’s video message

Brothers and sisters, may the peace of Christ be with you. Forgive me if I speak in Spanish, but my English isn’t good enough for me to express myself properly. I speak in Spanish but, above all, I speak in the language ofthe heart.

[in Spanish:]

I have the invitation you sent me for this celebration of Christian Unity, this day of reconciliation. And I wish to join you from here. “Father, may we be one so that the world may believe you sent me”. This is the slogan, the theme of the meeting: Christ’s prayer to the Father for the grace of unity.

Today, Saturday May 23rd, from 9 in the morning until 5 in the afternoon, I will be with you spiritually and with all my heart. We will search together, we will pray together, for the grace of unity. The unity that is budding among us is that unity which begins under the seal of the one Baptism we have all received. It is the unity we are seeking along a common path. It is the spiritual unity of prayer for one another. It is the unity of our common labour on behalf of our brothers and sisters, and all those who believe in the sovereignty of Christ.

Dear brothers and sisters, division is a wound in the body of the Church of Christ. And we do not want this wound to remain open. Division is the work of the Father of Lies, the Father of Discord, who does everything possible to keep us divided.

Together today, I here in Rome and you over there, we will ask our Father to send the Spirit of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and to give us the grace to be one, “so that the world may believe.” I feel like saying something that may sound controversial, or even heretical, perhaps. But there is someone who“knows” that, despite our differences, we are one. It is he who is persecuting us. It is he who is persecuting Christians today, he who is anointing us with (the blood of) martyrdom. He knows that Christians are disciples of Christ: that they are one, that they are brothers! He doesn’t care if they are Evangelicals, or Orthodox, Lutherans, Catholics or Apostolic…he doesn’t care! They are Christians. And that blood (of martyrdom) unites. Today, dear brothers and sisters, we are living an “ecumenism of blood”. This must encourage us to do what we are doing today: to pray, to dialogue together, to shorten the distance between us, to strengthen our bonds of brotherhood.

I am convinced it won’t be theologians who bring about unity among us. Theologians help us, the science of the theologians will assist us, but if we hope that theologians will agree with one another, we will reach unity the day after Judgement Day. The Holy Spirit brings about unity. Theologians are helpful, but most helpful is the goodwill of us all who are on this journey with our hearts open to the Holy Spirit!

In all humility, I join you as just another participant on this day of prayer, friendship, closeness and reflection. In the certainty that we have one Lord: Jesus is the Lord. In the certainty that this Lord is alive: Jesus is alive, the Lord lives in each one of us. In the certainty that He has sent the Spirit He promised us so that this “harmony” among all His disciples might be realised.

Dear brothers and sisters, I greet you warmly, with an embrace. I pray for you. I pray with You. And I ask you, please, to pray for me. Because I need your prayers in order to be faithful to what the Lord wants from my Ministry.

[Blessing]

God bless you. May God bless us all.

3 comments:

  1. What does orthodox Catholicism say about non-Catholics who are killed because they are identified as Christians? Or do we say anything?

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  2. What exactly DO we say about non-Catholics who are killed because of being identified as christians? I don't know.

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    1. Many papal documents and councils have decreed that non-Catholics, even if they shed blood for proclaiming Christ, are lost, not saved, unless they were infants (prior to the age of reason) who are baptized and have not committed any sin since baptism when they are martyred. I would give you a website to view that has a lot of documentation, but I'm not sure this blog owner will permit that. Seek and ye shall find.

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