Friday, August 12, 2016

Bp. Fellay confirms the SSPX’s further integration with Rome

Bp. Fellay at Our Lady of Gudalupe Monastery in Silver City,
New Mexico conferring Minor Orders sometime in August 2016.


Earlier this year in July at the ordination of abbé Sabur, in Paris France, Bp. de Galarreta of the Society (FSSPX) gave a sermon in which he talked about a letter which Bp. Fellay had been given by the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith which gave the SSPX permission to ordain whomever they see fit regardless of what the local diocesan officials had to say about the matter. Below is a transcribed excerpt of a recent sermon of Bp. Fellay in which he confirmed Bp. de Galarreta's words.

The sermon can be found on the website of Our Lady of Gudalupe Monastery listed as Minor Orders - Sermon of Bishop Fellay.





One can also download or listen to the audio file directly by clicking here.

The transcribed excerpt of Bishop Fellay’s words starts at the 7 minutes 53 seconds mark and finishes at the 13 minutes 13 seconds mark.


[Bolding and underlines are Call Me Jorge...’s for emphasis.]

“And there are two ways of incardination. The one is belonging to a diocese and the one the other one is belonging to a religious congregation order. The Church refuses to give this sacrament to let's call them loose, loose cannons, loose priests. They must be under the jurisdiction, under the order, under the obedience and it is very interesting to see that this is one of the major arguments which Rome is using against us to say that we and the uh future priests are suspended. They claim that you are not incardinated so your ordination is illegitimate. This they did since the time when they pretended since they had suppressed the Society.  Now and this is very interesting, and you may understand there the importance of our discussions with Rome.  Discussions we do not deal with so you say making a deal with Rome or making concessions with Rome.  No. These discussion have as a purpose that we request from these authorities which we still recognize as legitimate.  That they do recognize that our action is authentically Catholic, is legitimate.  And one of the we may say last steps which Rome has done is precisely about the ordinations given by us.  In fact, it's about a little bit more than two years now that this is already a fact but as it is done with the subtle Roman politics I didn't even realize that.  As only just now a few months ago that I have received a letter so it's written in black and white from Rome which states, “you can freely ordain the priest of the Society and of course it implies the communities which are with us without asking the permission to the local ordinary.  So Rome states we can freely ordain our candidates.  That means that Rome does recognize as legitimate the action like the one we took today.  We can see here how far we are from the condemnation from the local ordinary.  But, yes, it is true, it is very complicated, it is a very complicated situation the one in which we are and it is not because of us.  It's because of the situation of the Church which is real...excuse the word a real mess.  They, we do say that this situation of tremendous confusion is the consequence of a Council , Council Vatican II, in which the germs of this confusion have been inoculated into the Church.  And that's precisely because we fight against this because we fight against this disorder that we have been punished. Of course we do say that it is unjust. That's the situation, that's why we continue to do what the Church has always done but it is interesting to see that little by little, in the facts, Rome does recognizes that we exist and that what we do is right.
— Bp. Fellay in sermon August 2016 —



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27 comments:

  1. Yay,the Anti-Christ novus ordo recognize us,Yay!!Everyone for decades knew the SPX would either go Novus Ordo or embrace the only logical position,Sedevacantism.
    The average SPX pew sitter will do what Bishop Fellay tells them to do,they could care less about the Truth.
    I wish 'the resistance' would wake up and stop embracing the SPX schismatic mindset.

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    1. "...the only logical position, Sedevacantism."

      The only logical position, if one believes that the present Pope is illegitimate, is to elect another one. That's what was done in the Middle Ages. Hold a conclave, and elect a pope, and formally declare Francis an antipope.

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    2. The SSPX are not sedevacantists, and that is not a logical position. Neither are priests that celebrate the Novus Ordo "anti Christs", especially if they say no heresy.

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    3. 2 Corinthians 6:14

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    4. Vatican 2 is full of heresy that contradicts sacred scripture and sacred tradition.The "new Sacraments" (including holy orders) are outright invalid.The SSPX hold an illogical inconsistent position.

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    5. Orlando Music: how do novus ordo priests say "no" to heresy?

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    6. SSPX will become heretics if they accept that in ONE church, some people accept one set of teachings that are in direct oppostion to teachings that other don't accept. I.e. Do we worship the SAME God as the Jews and Muslims? Or was Jesus telling the truth when He said the Jews who didn't accept Him had the devil for their Father? Are Catholics to work for religious liberty so that Satanists can hold black masses and behead statues of the Blessed Virgin Mary and then eat a pigs heart that they've placed in the statue? Are Catholics to work for "religious liberty" so that Cardinal Danneels and his sodomite sidekicks can rape our children (including their own nephews) and corrupt them sexually under the guise of teaching them catechism? So that these sodomites can get their sick "catholic" politicians like O'Malley, Cuomo, Brown, Biden, and Pelosi to pass sodomite marriage? And now the Muslims and Mormons are going to pass polygamy to the cheers of these same perverts who say oh the women will marry each other also so it's not sexist! So that the satanists and planned parenthood and GLSEN can put their scum into our schools and corrupt children? Bestiality, sodomy and transvestites are legal in the Army--but no student, teacher or soldier can pray to Jesus Christ. This is vicious and the work of the devil! How could anyone go along w/it? How can the SSPX accept cafeteria Catholicism?

      SSPX IS sedevacantist because no-one who believes they will look Jesus Christ in the face or who is honest (i.e. loves the truth) can go along w/these VC2 clerics. When push came to shove w/+Lefebvre, he made the right decision and he died excommuicate (and that is his highest honor). God help Fellay that he doesn't give any support to these devils. Good people cannot congregate w/the wicked. And if you disagree, then read the New Testament and see how Jesus behaved around the wicked, nasty, corrupt priests and kings of His day (and remember He is the High Priest). Also see how John the Baptist went out into the desert from the day of his birth (and he was in the line of priests).

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  2. "In fact, it's about a little bit more than two years now that this is already a fact but as it is done with the subtle Roman politics I didn't even realize that. As only just now a few months ago that I have received a letter so it's written in black and white from Rome which states..."

    I wonder if he'll realize it when he's under house arrest, accused of sex crimes, robbed of his money and good name, and a filthy, rotten, stinking to high heaven transvestite is prancing about destroying SSPX....

    So are the SSPX 'priests' now 'forgiving' habitual adultery in the confessional? Marrying bigamists? Putting sodomites on the parish councils and baptizing sodomites' children? As you pointed out, S&S are down w/female deacons, so I guess it's been so for about 2 years that Fellay is ordaining VC2 perverts. No wonder all the SSPX defenders: Ferrara, Matt & Verecchio attend Novus Ordo churches served by novus ordo priests. And, of course, that's why Fellay buried that N.O. priest in "good standing" Gruner--I guess Fellay can pretty much do anything he wants (until he's under house arrest). What a shell game.

    https://margareta-media.gloria.tv/bonifacius/d/9u/tgzrkb9g2tzl7lvufh4i5zmlwytppy5z92luiodnwl.mp4?sum=YibHmD4R1Jgw7aWPEHX9vg&due=1471089600

    http://www.farodiroma.it/2016/08/10/francescani-dellimmacolata-avviso-di-chiusura-indagini-per-padre-manelli-il-boia-di-frigento/

    Sure wish wikileaks would hack the vatican/sspx so we could find out what they have on Fellay.

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    1. What alarmist horse crap!!!
      Most of these posts are more of the same "he's gonna" thats been coming from the resistance from the get-go! If the SSPX was offered a personal prelature with no conditions and took it, still, the resistance would be screaming bloody murder.....
      The resistance needs to stop acting out of emotion and just stick with the facts .....

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    2. A personal prelature that accepts the synod on the family, i.e. gives communion to adulterers, fornicators and sodomites--and lets priests annul marriages (haha) in the confessional? A personal prelature that celebrates St. Luther w/Lutherans on Halloween? A personal prelature that buries protestant 'bishops' as Catholic bishops? A personal prelature that states the new mass is the same sacrament as the old mass--and that the Lutherans have been having a valid mass for 500 years? How 'bout women deaconesses (here siscoe and salsa are down w/that already)? Does a personal prelature answer to the kook in the white suit in Rome who's placed Manelli under house arrest and the same w/the IVE's head? Who's trashed the contemplative convents in contradiction to Jesus Christ "Mary has chosen the Better Part," Judith, Anna etc.?

      Why don't you stick w/the facts? You non-resisters are the ones ignoring every fact that's come down the pike...If you want to accept VC2 doctrine, morals, sacraments etc. what the hell does one need SSPX "priests" for? Fellay can join VC2 any time. And if he wants to, why doesn't he get the hell out of the SSPX? HE (not to mention you) certainly ain't resisting anything. People are always showing videos of Lefebvre speeches--only speeches they show of Fellay is him namby pambying about negotiations and toadying to VC2 scum like smoke and vinegar or bully brit sodomite. One seriously wonders if he has any desire to meet Jesus Christ or go to heaven (not if I could have a personal prelature on earth!!! Whooooo boyyyyy! the devil in the white suit promised me a red hat!!!! whoooo boyyyyyy!~).

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    3. I have read the SPX IS NOT re-ordaining Novus Ordo "Clerics"...I don't know if its true.(if memory serves me right a Novus Ordo "cleric",after switching over to the SPX,wanted to be conditionally "Re-Ordained" & Bishop Fellay wouldn't allow it,telling the troubled man his "holy orders were valid"

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  3. Would XXLefevbre reject unconditional invitation to reconcile?

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    1. According to those who knew him personally,Archbishop Marcel had become more conservative in his last 3 years of life.

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    2. Depending on which model. Archbishop Lefebvre models 1-3 (or maybe 1-10?)

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  4. Personally I think Bishop Tissier holds the correct logical sedevacantist position.Time will tell if I am correct.

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  5. Bishop Fellay is selling out and so is everyone who blindly follow him. Once integrated they will slowly be taken apart bit by bit till there is nothing left but a memory.

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    1. I agree and acknowledge-accept this is Jesus Christ' divine will.This episode-soap opera of the SPX-Novus Ordo has taught me a lesson.
      Traditional Catholic Chapels and traditional Catholic society's need to stay small and close knit.If any traditional Catholic group grows to a certain number,Leftist and saboteur's are sent to their seminary with orders to infiltrate and destroy.
      Its a shame to think about all the people in 6 continents since 1971 or so who tithed money,time,effort,etc..into the SPX chapel's, seminary's,etc..only to see it vanish and implode with a wimper by the simple stroke of Bishop Fellay's pen.

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  6. Your Excellency, I was there for your pontifical Mass and the ordinations for the Brothers,. I can tell that you are truly sincere about your position, your state in which God has placed you. The salvation of souls! It is very easy, especially at this moment, for us "intelligent creatures" to state our "opinions", but it does us no good. The Blessed Sacrament is dishonored, Our Lady despised, and fighting, fighting even in our own ranks of people who call themselves Catholic. Truly, we spend too much time thinking, dwelling upon our own opinions, and forget that Our Lord is physically present upon this earth to help us in our needs, which is for our beatitude, not His. People reading this, have you ever met this Bishop? Do you have any true, real concept of what his excellency is about? If you have, then you know his Excellency's sincerity. If you have not, than I would suggest that you keep your opinions to yourself, and pray for him. Maybe Our Lord would be so kind and wise as to see things "Your way".

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  7. Your Excellency, I was there for your Pontifical Mass both days! I heard you speak on both days, and I realize the disorder in the people of Our Faith in these days. We all seem to have an opinion of how things should be if " I were to be in charge"! "If I were in your position!" I can imagine many of these people have never met you, yet they are quick to speak of an ordained APOSTLE of Our same Lord, in such an ignorant way. Such is the days of time! Your Excellency, I listened to you speak. I witnessed your devotion to God and the salvation of His people, and I am very sorry that you have to undergo this insolence. I imagine that it was the same for Our Lord when His Majesty was in the presence of His chosen people, and they failed to recognize what was before them. But as you know, Our Lord is in charge! Our Queen has allowed this for reasons, our faults, and rightfully so. I pray these individuals may come to know you, not through the media, and realize that we here on the outside, really have no idea on what is going on, on the inside. Yes, I am sure alot of smart people might have something to say, but at the end of the day, have we grown in the love of Our Lord? Have we made it a point to better ourselves, do we really understand the importance of our Faith? Are we doing our part in it's fullness? Or simply blaming others for the lack of Charity in the world! It's not my fault right! It is everyone else s fault! Blessed be God in the most Blessed Sacrament of the Altar! U.I.O.G.D.

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  8. By the way blogger person, did you happen to catch the juggling act performed by the monks? It was very awesome! If so, I would very appreciate a copy, and I thank you in advance. Our Lady of Fatima, ora pro nobis!
    U.I.O.G.D.

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  9. Every single one of the documents of Vatican Two is capable of being interpreted in the light of Tradition and we know that because the founder of The SSPX, Mons Lefebvre, signed all of the documents of Vatican Two and most of those who succor the sspx consider him the apotheosis of Tradition.

    Given that obvious, undeniable truth,why does the sspx repudiate the very documents signed by its creator?

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    1. That was before. Fellay accepts them now. Remember Archbishop Lefebvre thought he was signing the attendance roster for attending the discussion of the respective document and not for the document itself. Bishop Fellay thinks by signing up for a Personal Prelature he will automatically be made the Prelate in charge. Vatican II has never really been in the picture. I'm sorry. I read too many Fellay interviews over the years. I'll think again and come back later.

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    2. The excuse ehe thought he was signing an attendance roister has, long ago, been disproved

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  10. AD APOSTOLORUM PRINCIPIS

    40. And when We later addressed to you the letter Ad Sinarum gentem, We again referred to this teaching in these words: “The power of jurisdiction which is conferred directly by divine right on the Supreme Pontiff comes to bishops by that same right, but only through the successor of Peter, to whom not only the faithful but also all bishops are bound to be constantly subject and to adhere both by the reverence of obedience and by the bond of unity.”

    41. Acts requiring the power of Holy Orders which are performed by ecclesiastics of this kind, though they are valid as long as the consecration conferred on them was valid, are yet gravely illicit, that is, criminal and sacrilegious


    Interpreting the romance between the sspx and the Catholic Church in light of Tradition can it be said that both subjects are complicit in dissolving Tradition vis a vis ordinations and jurisdiction?

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    1. “And there are two ways of incardination. The one is belonging to a diocese and the one the other one is belonging to a religious congregation order. The Church refuses to give this sacrament to let's call them loose, loose cannons, loose priests..."

      Is this loose canon of a fake Traditionalist, who obviously enjoys dressing up and speaking as a bishop, calling "incardination" a sacrament?. If that's what he learned at Econe, let all who follow this man abandon all hope!

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  11. Further, heading towards complete, disintegration ....

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  12. Will Bishop Fellay help celebrate Jewish Holiday's like his bother "bishops" in the Novus Ordo??

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