Monday, June 19, 2017

What was Francis reaction when he read this letter?

Francis and Cardinal Caffarra in a ‘spiritual hug’.

We at Call Me Jorge... wonder what Francis’ reaction was when he read the letter (see below) from Cardinal Carlo Caffarra on 25 April 2017.  We bet that not only did it get his heart going but that he had another outburst filled with profanity. Sandro Magister, who published the Portuguese original, still has his Vatican press credentials, as we write, but he may find himself on the receiving end of the wrath of ‘humble’ Francis once again.  The funniest part is when Caffarra assures Francis that the four cardinals believe Francis is the pope and not to worry they are not sedvacantists!  Anyway you slice it, its the same old Vatican game - a letter to Francis, followed by an explosion of ‘humble’ anger, then Francis pretending as if the letter didn’t exist, and ending with the letter being publicly aired like it was laundry by the frustrated letter writers.  It’s an elaborate ritual of saving face for all parties involved.  Ah, who could have predicted that Amoris Laetitia would become a sideshow at Francis’ macabre carnival?

“Most Holy Father,
It is with a certain trepidation that I address myself to Your Holiness, during these days of the Easter season. I do so on behalf of the Most Eminent Cardinals: Walter Brandmüller, Raymond L. Burke, Joachim Meisner, and myself.
We wish to begin by renewing our absolute dedication and our unconditional love for the Chair of Peter and for Your august person, in whom we recognize the Successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus: the “sweet Christ on earth,” as Saint Catherine of Siena was fond of saying. We do not share in the slightest the position of those who consider the See of Peter vacant, nor of those who want to attribute to others the indivisible responsibility of the Petrine munus. We are moved solely by the awareness of the grave responsibility arising from the munus of cardinals: to be advisers of the Successor of Peter in his sovereign ministry. And from the Sacrament of the Episcopate, which “has placed us as bishops to pasture the Church, which He has acquired with his blood” (Acts 20:28).
On September 19, 2016 we delivered to Your Holiness and to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith five dubia, asking You to resolve uncertainties and to bring clarity on some points of the post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation, Amoris Laetitia.
Not having received any response from Your Holiness, we have reached the decision to ask You, respectfully and humbly, for an Audience, together if Your Holiness would like. We attach, as is the practice, an Audience Sheet in which we present the two points we wish to discuss with you.
Most Holy Father,
A year has now gone by since the publication of Amoris Laetitia. During this time, interpretations of some objectively ambiguous passages of the post-synodal Exhortation have publicly been given that are not divergent from, but contrary to, the permanent Magisterium of the Church. Despite the fact that the Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith has repeatedly declared that the doctrine of the Church has not changed, numerous statements have appeared from individual Bishops, Cardinals, and even Episcopal Conferences, approving what the Magisterium of the Church has never approved. Not only access to the Holy Eucharist for those who objectively and publicly live in a situation of grave sin, and intend to remain in it, but also a conception of moral conscience contrary to the Tradition of the Church. And so it is happening — how painful it is to see this! — that what is sin in Poland is good in Germany, that what is prohibited in the archdiocese of Philadelphia is permitted in Malta. And so on. One is reminded of the bitter observation of B. Pascal: “Justice on this side of the Pyrenees, injustice on the other; justice on the left bank of the river, injustice on the right bank.”
Numerous competent lay faithful, who are deeply in love with the Church and staunchly loyal to the Apostolic See, have turned to their Pastors and to Your Holiness in order to be confirmed in the Holy Doctrine concerning the three sacraments of Marriage, Confession, and the Eucharist. And in these very days, in Rome, six lay faithful, from every Continent, have presented a very well-attended study seminar with the meaningful title: “Bringing clarity.”
Faced with this grave situation, in which many Christian communities are being divided, we feel the weight of our responsibility, and our conscience impels us to ask humbly and respectfully for an Audience.
May Your Holiness remember us in Your prayers, as we pledge to remember You in ours. And we ask for the gift of Your Apostolic Blessing.
Carlo Card. Caffarra
Rome, April 25, 2017
Feast of Saint Mark the Evangelist
1. Request for clarification of the five points indicated by the dubia; reasons for this request.
2. Situation of confusion and disorientation, especially among pastors of souls, in primis parish priests.”
sources:  English translation — Edward Pentin, Full Text of Dubia Cardinals’ Letter Asking Pope for an Audience & Portuguese original — Sandro Magister, "A nossa consciência força-nos…"

 Who do these guys think they are?


  1. I feel the ruling elite will start a war soon.
    There is too much backlash over their new social engineering from conservative people all over the world.
    This is one example of many!
    After 25 kinds of Hell for a few yrs,most ppl will surrender for a warm meal,bed,and 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep.They will then accept whatever programs the ruling elite offer,such as Bergoglio's new "charity".

  2. Cue my conservative Novus Ordo friend---"Its not dogma so don't worry about it." Or from the local conservative Novus Ordo "priest"-----"Don't worry---I have confidence that the 'church' will eventually 'right' itself."

    Seattle kim

  3. What does any liar think when he reads the lie of another liar? Really, how long can this farce go on? Let's have another internet petition from The Remnant or LifeSite News--it is just like the prolife scam: One catlick (Jerry Brown/Xavier Becerra) arrests another catlick (David Daleiden) who's "exposing" planned parenthood in a planned multi year campaign that shocks/appalls no one but keeps blood pennies raining down not only on Planned Parenthood (and all the libs) but also making Judie Brown, Lila Rose, DD, Shawn Carney, Eric, Joe & Ann Scheidler, Tom Brejcha, Frank Pavone & all the other prolife "heroes" millionaires (look up the 990s on the internet)--and 1.2 million more babies get murdered (astronimical # of souls). The catlick church is a perverse sodomite bidness!

    The Knights of Columbus are clearly one of the major sources of funding (against the mandate), as well as other fraternal organizations," Schneck said. The Knights of Columbus, a Catholic charitable group based in New Haven, Conn., says it's the world's largest lay Catholic organization. Knights of Columbus life insurance sales neared $8 billion in 2010, and last year, it contributed $158 million to charity. In the last decade, the Knights have donated more than $1 billion to charity.

    LifeSite News (help us build a culture of life Help us build a Culture of Life!$183,641 to go!) advocates heresy (religious liberty that engenders Satan clubs) because rubes who don't know any better will continue to fund year after year--while the country becomes MORE sodomite, MORE satanic, MORE anti-life (now murdering the insane, demented and handicapped), but there's MONEY so why not ride the gravy train to hell! "Lori said he didn't feel the bishops were in "the appropriate forum" to discuss greater details of the Committee's funding. However, he assured his fellow bishops, "I would say that I'm very familiar with [the Committee funders] and there are several." Their committment is "bedrock and I know that they are able to assist us year [after] year," said Lori. $2 million needed by July 1

    $408,488 0.83% Alan E. Sears President, CEO

    Those named to the Order Grand Cross of the Order of St. Gregory the Great

    Mrs. Dorian Anderson and Mr. Carl Anderson. Carl Anderson serves as Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus and is a member of the Pontifical Council for the Family. Through his office the Knights of Columbus provided various modes of support that were vital to the success of the World Meeting of Families and the papal visit.

    Really - how long can this farce go on? Write a blog don't give to Peter's Pence -- but who will dare to say it in the church when the collection is being made (not to mention cover their head at mass)?

    What bishop (or cardinal) will dare to make public speeches the way Lefebvre did and then when it came to dying excommunicate -- put his belief in the holy Trinity and the holy gospel of Jesus Christ above everything?

  4. However, they note that Francis does not receive them for two months.
    That's laughing at him in public.