Tuesday, July 17, 2018

Always the center of attention and never at a lack for words...

Francis releases another video even 
though he is on ‘vacation’

“Are you young or old? Because if you are young but already old, you will not be able to do anything. You have to be young "young".”

Thanks, for straightening that out!

Monday, July 16, 2018

Want to know what Francis’ position on abortion is?

Then, just look at his scandalous actions.

Francis had an audience with the members of the Pontifical Academy Of Life on Monday, 25 June 2018, in the Clementine Hall where he gave an address.  Afterwards, Francis met with some of the members of the academy including the two pro-abortion rabbis (Rabbi Avraham Steinberg, M.D. & Rabbi Professor Fernando Szlajen) he appointed to it.  No where in his address did Francis condemn abortion, instead he uttered a bunch of hollow platitudes, talked about his program of gnostic environmentalism (global bioethics), and appealed to the ethics, values, and wisdom of those in attendance.  Let’s see, what are some of the ethics, values, and wisdom of rabbis Steinberg and Szlajen?  A few of the ethics of Rabbi Steinberg are: gentiles should be put to death for committing abortion but Jews shouldn’t be, pedophilia rape is OK, blood has magic abilities, the first man Adam was a hermaphrodite, etc... One of the value$ that Rabbi Szlajen teaches is, the Bible demands abortion in only one case “when the life of the conceptus [the embryo in utero] inexorably threatens that of its mother.”  He then goes on to justify this by citing, “the law of rodef, ‘pursuer’.”  We don’t know about you, but we have yet to read a Bible which sanctions abortion or cites ‘the law of the rodef’.  We have read the Talmud though, which says almost verbatim what Rabbi Szlajen wrote.  This noahidzation of the church is what Francis means when he says he wants a, “deepening of scientific, anthropological and ethical knowledge, and in service to life,” and “there is a real cultural revolution on the horizon of history at this time. The Church must, first and foremost, be part of it.”

 Rabbi Avraham Steinberg, M.D. with Francis.

Rabbi Professor Fernando Szlajen with Francis.

Is Mr. William Edward Moran holed up with supporters of Our Lady of Mount Carmel Seminary?

On 7 November 2015, Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko issued a statement stating, “after further investigation... [we have] decided not to associate with Archbishop Ambrose Moran.”  They apparently do not have any problem with the supporters of Pfeiffer’s Resistance & Our Lady of Mount Carmel Seminary putting up ‘bishop’ Mickey Mouse in their garage.

9 May 2017 — Fr. Pfeiffer, Fr. Hewko, and seminarians in the kitchen

9 May 2017 — stacking brush and dead wood

Same house and property in September 2017

21 September 2017 — evening prayers with Fr. Hewko

What’s going on here?  Perhaps, ‘the Great Monarch’ will get to the bottom of the matter and sort it all out if ‘the Mexican Exorcist’ hasn’t already beaten him to it.

Sunday, July 8, 2018

Francis meets with head of Zionist Union

Avraham “Avi” Gabbay updates Francis on the Middle East, the current situation in Gaza, and brings letters from families of Hadar Goldin, Oron Shaul, and Avera Mengistu to him.

On Monday, 2rd July 2018, Francis had an unusually long meeting with Avi Gabbay, an Israeli politician and the current leader of the Zionist Union and the Israeli Labor Party.  Zionist Union is a political alliance in Israel made up of the Israeli Labor Party, Hatnuah and Green Movements which hope to unseat Benjamn Netanyahu in the 2019 elections.  Gabbay is an alum of the elite Israeli Defense Force Unit 8200, which is an intelligence gathering group much like America’s NSA.  (No word if the Moroccan-Israeli Jew is related to Rita (Gabbay) Katz, the public relations representative of ISIS whose father was hanged in Iraq for being an Israeli spy.)

During the meeting, Avi Gabbay gave Francis letters from the families Mengistu, Shaul, and Goldin asking Francis for help in the “name of peace” in getting their son and the remains of them back to Israel.  Francis told Gabbay that, “he intended to act on the matter” and stated, “Anyone who attacks the Jewish people or attacks the very existence of the State of Israel is actually an anti-Semite. On the other hand, whoever criticizes one government or another that controls its policy in Israel is legitimate.”  This was specifically a criticism of the Boycott-Divestment-Sanctions movement against Israel (BDS).   

Francis, pledged to put pressure on Hamas to return the hostage and remains of the two Israelis to Israel.  Here we have Francis willingly participating in a psychodrama of Israel, as Israel is responsible for Hamas existence much like they are responsible for ISIS.

Francis’ pledge to put pressure on Hamas is reminiscent of his, “heartfelt appeal to ensure that everyone is committed to respecting the status quo.” The status quo being the continuation of the Vatican’s policy of assisting the ethnic cleansing (i.e. de-Christianization) of Israel.   It is not surprising though as the logos for Francis is the Holocaust and Talmudic Judaism — even when on the surface it appears otherwise.  Just remember that non-judgemental Francis (“Who am I to Judge?”) becomes judgmental when it comes to his religion.

It’s also ironic that Francis who didn’t want to interfere in Argentine elections, has no problem meddling in the upcoming Israeli elections.  All in all, it’s part of Francis’ double-minded inner-Jew.  Speaking of inner-Jews, the Polish-Moroccan-Spanish-Israeli Jew Francis told this inner-Jew statement to, Henrique Cymerman, and whom also organized Francis’ trip to Israel, is the one who set up his private audience with Avi Gabbay.  More in the coming years should gradually leak out as to what else transpired at this private audience

According to the Encyclopedia Judaica: the last name Gabbay comes from the Hebrew gabbai which is a “lay communal official“ and is derived from the Hebrew word gavah, meaning “to exact payment”.   Nothing could be more apt than Avi Gabbay, a lay official, visiting Francis in the Vatican where he demands a payment to the self-chosen tribe and Francis happily pays up.  That no one in the conservative Catholic and traditional Catholic medias has covered this meeting tells you all need to know about them, they are willing accessories in the Talmudists’ agenda.  After all, this isn't rocket scientry, all one need do is check the AP Wire and RSS feeds for news like this.

Unfortunately, Asia Bibi’s family didn’t know Henrique Cymerman, 
so it took 5 years to get a 40 minute audience with humble Francis.

(bold is ours for emphasis)
Zionist Union chairman Avi Gabbay met Pope Francis in the Vatican Tuesday, and brought him letters from the families of Israelis held by the Hamas terror group in Gaza asking for his support in bringing them back home.
The pope discussed the situation in the Middle East with Gabbay and ways to advance peace in the region. The Zionist Union leader told the the head of the Roman Catholic church that it requires strong leaders who are prepared to take difficult decisions and not align themselves with extremists.
Gabbay updated the pontiff on the current situation in Gaza and the pope surprised him by speaking of a childhood friend of his who lives in an Israeli town near the border. The pope was given letters from the families of IDF servicemen Hadar Goldin and Oron Shaul, whose remains have been held by Hamas since the summer 2014 Gaza war, and from the family of Avera Avraham Mengistu, a civilian who is being held by the terror group.
“My world ended when my son, Staff Sgt. Oron Shaul, was abducted in Gaza in 2014 by the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas,” wrote Zehava Shaul. “His fate is uncertain although we know that he continues to be held captive by Hamas to this day. While the international community has long forgotten my son, I have not.”
She called on the pope, “In the name of the world peace that you and all of us seek,” to help return her son to Israel.
The pope promised to use whatever diplomatic means he could to help the families.
Francis also criticized the BDS Israel boycott movement, pointing out that there is a difference between legitimate criticism of government policies and those who deny the legitimacy of the Jewish state — the latter he decried as anti-Semitic.
Gabbay was accompanied by journalist Henrique Cymerman, who is close to the pope and who recently joined the Labor party.
Cymerman was involved in bringing the pope on an official visit to Israel in 2014 and helped arrange a subsequent prayer meeting with Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in the Vatican.
Meeting Zionist Union chair, Pope vows to help bring Hamas-held captives home, The Times of Israel, (3 July 2018).

Francis looks to be having a good time. He must be telling another blasphemous joke.

Or having a laugh at all the pewsitters whom believe him to be a Catholic.

Israel’s Channel 2’s coverage of the meeting

Wednesday, July 4, 2018

The (re)branding of the SSPX

So they organize the meeting in Menzingen, and Father Wegner told me that the man went there and asked one hundred and fifty questions to Bishop Fellay, and Bishop Fellay answered all of these questions, and it lasted six hours! For six hours! And, at the end, that man said: “Okay, I will take the contract of the Society, and I will do your branding.”
So I don't know exactly how long this took... A few months... And I don't know how much it cost, but... I talked with some people, and they think it was a bundle of money, and I wish they would have given it to us, so we could have a nice church by now! And afterwards he gave the conclusion to Father Wegner and to Bishop Fellay, the conclusion of the whole survey of the branding, and he said to Father and Bishop Fellay: “Bishop Fellay, the result of my survey, is that for the last fifteen years, you had it all wrong! You will never get more faithful and more people to come to your churches if you continue this way, because right now, the Vatican II Church is like an old man dying, and it's like dying flat on the street. Like they lose their seminaries, they lose their monasteries, they sell their churches, and it is a dying church! And you are really looking bad when you continue to fight that Church! It makes you look like a cruel... or like you exaggerate, or like you are kicking somebody who is already dying! So your new branding has to change you completely! You have to stop arguing; you have to stop fighting; you have instead to go on the positive side, and to show the beauty of the traditional liturgy, the beauty of the traditional theology, and that way people will not see you as cruel, or bitter, or things like that.”
And this is why, since the branding of the society, DICI has changed; the SSPX websites have changed; the Angelus has changed. And in fact, interestingly enough, if you go back to the first issue of the new Angelus, what does Father Wegner say? Go back if you have it, and read it. He says: “We will not anymore put the emphasis on the battle and the fight, but we will put the emphasis on the beauty of the Gregorian chant, the beauty of art...”
Fr. Patrick Girouard  
Solemnity of Corpus Christi 

2 June 2013

“[The FSSPX] has forgotten its role of explaining 
the truth and battling against error.”

(begins at 13:15 and finishes at 26:14)

— Fr. Jürgen Wegner —

(click image to enlarge)

Tuesday, July 3, 2018

The Pope Video — Season 3 Episode 7

Is Francis projecting his thoughts and feelings about himself?

After all, he did say, he “often think(s) about it [the tiredness of priests],”  and remember those, “who experience fatigue and loneliness in their work as a pastor.” It’s not hard to imagine Francis looking in the mirror and repeating to himself the following mantra especially after his many recent failures, “remember that the people love their priests, need them and trust in them.”

Recall back when Francis had his first television interview during World Youth Day Rio 2013, when he said, “I can’t live alone. I can’t live confined, I need the people’s contact... I stay in Santa Marta due to psychiatric reasons, so I don’t suffer from this loneliness...”?  Then there are his recent falls that happened in Switzerland as he was getting off of the bus and during his Novus Ordo mess.  Could it be that running his revolution 24/7 and his age are finally catching up to him?  

The Laudato si' Conference is coming...

...to save the world!

If they’d just get together like they did for Assisi, 
hold hands, and sing this song...it might work!

Why save souls when one can fight 
a construct of one’s imagination?

Monday, July 2, 2018

the new evangelization in Spain returns!

Nothing says, “I am who I am” quite like walking around the spiritual desert of New York City and shouting it out while dressed in black and wearing sunglasses


Sheldon Adelson’s “thug life”

Sheldon Adelson says it’s unfortunate that he served in the US military instead of the IDF and that he hopes his son will one day serve in the IDF as a sniper.

IDF sniper shirt

The “thug” snaps his fingers and the pet Trump jumps.

Deceit & Lying “in the interest of peace” with rabbinical arms dealer Shmuley Boteach & Sheldon Adelson dictating Iran policy

North Korea (the playground of Vladimir Putin, Semion Mogilevich, and Sheldon Adelson) comes to Sheldon Adelson’s Marina Bay Sands in Singapore to discuss business.

Friday, June 29, 2018

Bp. Fellay discusses the FSSPX’s desire to become a ‘personal prelature’ and their future goals

 Bp. Fellay wants the Society to become a ‘personal preature’

In a recent interview with Regina Einig for Die Tagespost„Wir sind ein Störfaktor in der Kirche“ Bp. Fellay tackled the Society’s relationship with modernist Rome, “goodness is there, benevolence. For years, we have been working with Rome to rebuild trust. And we have made great progress despite all the reactions.... The main points - religious freedom, ecumenism, new mass - are all open questions. This is incredible progress. Until now it has been said: You must obey. Meanwhile, curia workers tell us: we should open a seminary in Rome, a university for the defense of tradition.”  Regina Einig then asked ‘What would a reasonable solution be?’ to which Fellay replied, “A personal prelature.”  Bp. Fellay then explained why the talks with modernist Rome have stalled, “Last year, Archbishop Pozzo told us that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Congregation approved the text we were to sign. We should agree with a personal prelature. One and a half months later, Cardinal Müller decided to revise the text and demand a clearer acceptance of the Council [Vatican II] and the legitimacy of the Holy Mass [Novus Ordo Missae]. First of all, we opened discussion channels, then they blocked them. What do you really want from us? This is where the devil works. It is a spiritual fight.”  Lastly, responded when asked, ‘Do you personally trust Francis?’, “We have a very good relationship. If we let him know that we are in Rome, this door is open. He is always helping us on a smaller scale. For example, he told us, "I have problems when I do something good for you. I help Protestants and Anglicans - why can not I help the Catholics? " Some want to prevent the agreement. We are a disruptive factor in the church. The Pope stands in between.”  Bp. Fellay’s interview with
Regina Einig ends with the bishop showing her a handwritten letter from Francis to Bp. Fellay in French with the address “Cher frere, cher fils” (Dear brother, dear son).
Anonymous members of the Roman Curia want a seminary like this in Rome.

• BONUS • 


The interdenominational Pentagon Memorial Chapel where the SSPX will concelebrate Mass.

At this point what’s the difference between the SSPX and the Indult?

**** UPDATE 1 JULY 2018 ****

A well written post exploring the implications of a priest of the FSSPX joining the US military chaplaincy including: whom would be his bishop; what rite would he celebrate; and what this says about the leadership of the SSPX; can be read at the link below.

Thursday, June 28, 2018

L’Osservatore Romano recommends Daf Yomi (Daily Talmud Lessons)

One that slipped through the cracks and we at Call Me Jorge... just came across is that the L’Osservatore Romano published an article on 26 aprile 2013, Il Talmud giorno per giorno.  Here we have one of the instruments of the Vatican press extolling that the anti-Christian Talmud is available online and further praising the same website for offering daily lessons (which take seven years in total) which supposedly demonstrate that the Talmud is ‘biblical’ when it is if fact the opposite as the Talmud seeks to nullify the word of God whenever possible and substitute it with the man-made delusions of the Talmudic/Kabbalist rabbis.  The Talmud accomplishes this by commenting on much from the Tanakh pretending as if it is the word of God instead of the contrivances of 10th century and Renaissance rabbis. That this article was published a little less than one month and a half after Jorge Bergoglio was elected to the office of the papacy is no mere coincidence.


Will those that complete all the Daf Yomi celebrate 
Siyum HaShas at Stadio Olimpico in Rome?

Francis and Kabbalah

Francis with Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz

We thank God, that someone else besides Maurice Pinay is writing about how Francis’ teachings are nothing more than regurgitated Kabbalah — which Francis then sells as authentic Christianity.  The whole key to understanding who Francis is and why he says what he does are the Talmud, the Kabbalah, and Hasidic Judaism.  Thanks to One Peter Five for publishing this article by H. Reed Armstrong!  Please share this article with those who don’t understand that Francis preaches a Yiddish gospel and not the Gospel of Jesus the Christ.  (And please keep Mr. Armstrong in your prayers!)

Francis & Talmudic Judaism:

Francis’ Judaica Library:

Francis’ favorite blasphemous painting:

Tuesday, June 26, 2018

the new evangelization is a roller coaster of chaos

The Novus Ordo is total clownery.

How many takes did these two idiots shoot in order to make a mockery of the Catholic Faith?

source: facebook, Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh, 1 June 2018

Has there ever been a more apt metaphor for the post-conciliar church?

SHOCKER: Carlo Alberto Capella sentenced to 5 years in prison for possession of child pornography

Has a precedent been set and will Msgr. Pietro Amenta be soon joining him?


Trump’s ‘Israel Policy’ is Israel’s

Copied and Pasted straight from 
the Zionist State of Israel.

(click images to enlarge)


source: Born Trump: Inside America’s First Family - Emily Jane Fox, epub, (2018), ch. 3 Elecction Day,  pp. 69-73.

Jared Kushner has at least one thing in common with Francis, both have davened at the Western Wall.  The jury is still out if either zivugs when away from the cameras.  Notice the author states that Kushner has, “the same kinds of values and priorities” that the congregants of Kehilath Jeshurun have.  What are these value$?  Simply, the only thing that matters is the ‘Yiddish gang’ everything else is just $.

One of the things left unsaid by the author is that even though Jared Kushner is Modern Orthodox, he and his wife Yael (Ivanka) attend services at a Chabad-Lubavitch synagogue when in Washington, D.C..  Yael’s conversion was overseen by rabbis at Congregation Kehilath Jeshurun in New York City. For those who don’t know what a Modern Orthodox Jew is, Michael Hoffman has given the best explanation of the group, “The “modern Orthodox” as they are known, to distinguish them from Hasidim, are heirs to the zealous Talmudism that pre-existed Hasidism (which arose in the 18th century). They number in... tens of thousands of other movers-and-shakers in government, business and media. The modern Orthodox operate Yeshiva University in New York, which includes the prestigious Cardozo School of Law, whose graduates often become elite government and corporate attorneys and staff powerful non-governmental agencies such as the ADL.”

Jared Kushner attending services at ‘The Shul’ Tisha B’Av.

The Chabad-Lubavitch services the Kushners attend in Washington, D.C. are held at ‘The Shul’ Tisha B’Av.  It’s rabbi is Levi Shemtov.  Levi is the son of Abraham Shemtov, the Chabad rabbi whom lobbied then President Jimmy Carter for a Chanukkah Menorah on public grounds. This menorah transformed from small in stature to a huge anti-biblical monstrosity.  The Kushners have even gone so far as to hold Talmudic Friday Shabbat dinners at their Washington D.C. residence with Rabbi Levi Shemtov.

Returning to Congregation Kehilath Jeshurun, its rabbis have condemned the alt-right.  These are nothing more than crocodile tears as the alt-right’s godfather is none other than Paul Gottfried, who was a “right-wing proponent of the Frankfurt school.”  Donald Trump was elected in part because of the support of the alt-right which has some strange bedfellows.  One of the alt-right’s Neo-Nazi websites, The Daily Stormer, run by Andrew Auernheimer (aka Weev) was for some time run out of the same apartment as Kushner’s fellow Chabad-Lubtavicher and tech-jew, Alex Pilosov resided in.   The alt-right is nothing more than Talmudic controlled agitprop.

Why was Donald Trump going to AIPAC to speak in the first place?  President John F. Kennedy’s Justice Department ordered them to register as foreign-agents back in 1962 when they called themselves, the American Zionist Council.  Nothing that a name change and re-branding can’t care of.  (Something that those who attend the FSSPX’s masses want might to be mindful of.)

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a foreign agent

We could write much of Sheldon Adelson but it will have to save for a future post.  The Trump’s have been willing partners with the Kabbalists all the way from at least the time when Frederich Trump co-owned a liquor brothel with Ernest Levin in Canada.  Sometimes the Trumps fleece Am ha'aretz as Fred did courtesy of governmental financing but it is always for the benefit of the rabbis.  When one is a player at this diabolical-narcissistic game the only rule which counts in their book at the end of the day is Shanda.

Why did Kushner look to Israel in order to get Trump’s speech and policy?  One has to ask, ‘How loyal is Jared Kushner to the United States due to his bitter family lore?’  The Talmudists have portrayed Trump as ‘Cyrus the Great’ on a temple coin, while Netanyahu compared them in a speech.  Not only does Cyrus rebuild the temple for the Jews, he brings them out of exile back to Palestine.  That’s what the Talmudic alt-right’s end game is as well, for the Jews have become to accustomed to the West and intermarry in too great a number for the rabbis.   It’s time to herd them back into the rabbinic ghetto by making the West undesirable to the Am ha'aretz.

Which returns us to our topic, who is calling the shots from the White House?  It isn’t someone who has this country’s interests at heart or God’s.  It is a body of people who believe that God makes mistakes which need correcting because they delusionally see themselves as a ‘collective messiah’ who bring about their promised reign — a hell on earth for everyone else.  The sad thing is that Francis could if he wanted, help liberate these people from the collective nightmare of a cult they belong to with the Gospels but instead he confirms them in their delusions and helps keep them in their mental ghetto.  Not only that he is actively working to admit the pewsitters to this hell on earth.

Jared Kushner & Jason Greenblatt coordinate with Benjamin Netanyahu (22 June 2018)

Thursday, June 21, 2018

In-flight entertainment from the Canton of Usury, Chocolate and Cuckoo Clocks to the City of Pasta and Pigs

Blah, blah, blah, the same old socialist crap.

Greg Burke: Thank you, Your Holiness... we wait a second, here we go... perfect! Thank you in the meantime. To journey, to pray, to work together... we have walked, we have prayed also, at various times, and now we touch on work a little, even to eat after, so that it is seen that to journey together brings fruit. 
Today the welcoming- we have seen, after many speeches that it is the mutual respect and it is something more, it is also friendship. However, there is still so much work to do and so many challenges and this interests us normally, the challenges... so, to you journalists... but, if you want to say something first [Holy Father]?
Francis: Thank you for your work, the day was a little heavy, at least for me... but I am content, I am content [ed. note: or ‘happy’] because the various things that we have done -- that is, the prayers to begin, then the speech during lunch it was the most beautiful, then the academic meeting, and then the Mass, they are things that have made me happy... The tiring but beautiful things! Thank you so much! Now I am available to you.  
Greg Burke: Good. We begin with the Swiss. (Arnaud Bedat of L’Illustre magazine)
Bedat: Holy Father, you have been in Geneva, but also in Switzerland. What are the images and what are the strong, important moments that had an impact on you during this day?
Francis: Repeat for me.
Bedat: (repeated)
Francis: I believe that it is a common word: encounter. It was a day of varied encounters. The right word of the day is ‘encounter,’ and when a person encounters another and feels appreciation for the meeting, this always touches the heart, no? They were positive meetings, good even, beginning with the dialogue with the president at the beginning; it was not a speech of courtesy, as usual... [it was] a deep speech on the profound world debates and [spoken by him] with an intelligence... that I remain astonished, beginning from that.
Then the meetings that you all saw, and that which you did not see is the meeting at lunch, that was very profound [or deep] in the way it touched on many debates, mabe the debate we spent the most time on is "the youth." Because even all of the churches are concerned, in the good sense, for the youth and the pre-synod that occurred in Rome from March 19 and then attracted enough attention, because there were youth of all [different] beliefs, even agnostics and of all the countries. Think, 315 youth there and 15,000 connected [ed note: via Facebook] that they entered and exited and this perhaps awakened a special interest.
But the word that came to me maybe the whole trip is that it was a voyage of ‘encounter.’ Maybe... I don't know... an experience of encounter... no rudeness, nothing entirely formal. A human encounter. And this... between Protestants, Catholics and all [people] it says a lot, eh! 
Greg Burke: Thanks, Holiness. Now the German group. Roland Juchem of the German Catholic CIC Agency is here.
Roland Juchem: Thanks, Holy Father. You speak often of concrete steps toward ecumenism. Today, for example, you again referred to that, saying “Let’s see what is possible to do concretely rather than getting discouraged for what isn’t.”
The German bishops recently have decided to take a step and so we ask ourselves why Archbishop Ladaria wrote a letter that seems like an “emergency brake.” After the meeting May 3, it was affirmed that the German bishops would have had to find a possibly unanimous solution. What will be the next steps? Will an intervention from the Vatican be necessary to clarify or will the German bishops have to find an agreement?
Francis: Well. This is not a novelty because in the Code of Canon Law, what the German bishops were talking about is foreseen: communion in special cases. And, they were looking at the problem of mixed marriages, no? If it is possible or it isn’t possible. And the Code says that the bishop of the particular Church - this word is important, “particular,” if it is of a diocese - must read that. It’s in his hands. This is in the Code. The German bishops, because they had seen that it wasn’t clear... also some priests did things who weren’t in agreement with the bishop, have wished to study this theme and have made this study that I don’t want to exaggerate, but it was a study of more than a year, and more… it’s more than a year… well done… and the study was restrictive.
What the bishops wanted is to say clearly what is in the Code. And, I read it and said: this is a restrictive document, no? It wasn’t open to everyone. It’s a well thought-out thing, with ecclesial spirit. And they wished to do it for the local Church, not the particular. The thing slid along up until there for the German [bishops’] conference. And there, there is a problem, because the Code does not foresee that. It foresees the bishop of the diocese, but not the conference, because a thing approved by an episcopal conference immediately becomes universal. 
And this was the difficulty of the discussion: not so much the content, but this. And they sent the document. Then, there were two or three meetings of dialogue or of clarification and Archbishop Ladaria sent that letter, but with my permission. He didn’t do it alone! I told him: ‘Yes, it’s better to make a step ahead and say that the document isn’t yet mature and that the thing needed to be studied more.’ Then, there was another meeting and at the end they will study the thing. 
I think that this will be an orientative document so that each of the diocesan bishops can manage what canon law already permits.

It wasn’t a brake … it is reading the thing so that it goes along the right path. When I made a visit to the Lutheran Church of Rome, a question of the kind was posed, and I replied according to the spirit of the Code of Canon Law. It is the spirit that they are seeking now. Maybe it wasn’t the right information in the right moment, a little bit of confusion, but this is the thing: the particular Church, the Code permits it, the local Church [episcopal conference] cannot because it would be universal. 
(journalist inaudible) 
But the conference can study and give orientative opinions to help the bishops to manage the particular cases. Thanks.
Greg Burke: Now from the Spanish group there is Eva Fernandez of COPE agency and Spanish radio
Francis: They are good, these [journalists] of COPE
Eva Fernandez: Thank you, Holy Father! We have seen that even the secretary general of the Ecumenical Council of Churches spoke of help to refugees. Just recently we have seen the incident of the Aquarius ship, also the separation of families in the United States. Do you think that some leaders instrumentalize/use the tragedy of refugees. Do they use them...?
Francis: I have spoken a lot on refugees, the criteria are those that I have said: to welcome, to accompany, to place, to integrate. This is the criteria for all refugees. Then I have said that every country should do this with the virtue of the rule of prudence, because a country should welcome as many refugees as it can and as many as it can integrate, educate, assimilate, give work to. This I would say is the straightforward/easy, serene plan for refugees. Here we are living [with] a wave of refugees that flee from wars and from hunger. The war and hunger of many countries in Africa, wars and persecution in the Middle East. Italy and Greece were very generous in welcoming [refugees], and for the Middle East, Turkey [was also], in respect to Syria, it has received many... Lebanon many... Lebanon has as many Syrians as Lebanese... and then Jordan... other countries, also Spain has received [them? some?].
There is a problem of trafficking migrants, and also there is the problem when in some cases they return, because they should return if this -- I do not know/understand well the terms in agreement -- if they are in the Libyan water, they should return... and there, I have seen the photographs of the detention centers controlled by the traffickers. Traffickers immediately separate the women from the men... women and babies go... God knows where! This is what the traffickers do! There is even a case that I know of where the traffickers were close to a ship that had accepted barges and... [they were saying] "give us the women and the babies and take the males."
These traffickers and the detention centers of the traffickers eh, that have returned, they are terrible... terrible! In the detention camps of the Second World War they saw these things! And also the mutilizations in the torture of [forced?] labor and then they threw them to be in the comunes of the men. For this the leaders are concerned that they [the people] do not return and fall into the hands of these people [the traffickers]. It is a world-wide concern! I know that the leaders speak on this and they want to find an agreement, even to modify the Dublin agreement and all of this.  
In Spain you have had the case of this ship that is docked in Valencia, but all of this is a mess... the problem of the wars is difficult to resolve. The problem of the persecution also of Christians in the Middle East, also in Nigeria... but the problem of hunger they can resolve, and many European leaders are thinking of an emergency plan to invest in these countries, to invest intelligently, to give work and education in these two things in the countries from which those people come... because -- [I’ll say] one thing, not to offend, but it is the truth -- in the collective subconscious, is a bad motto: Africa is exploited. And Africa is to be preyed on... this is in the subconscious... ‘eh, they are Africans.’ Always ‘land of slaves.’
And this should change with this plan of investment, and to increase education, because the African people have many cultural riches, many, and they have a great intelligence. The children are very intelligent and they, with a good education, can go beyond... this will be the road halfway to the goal, but in the moment leaders should make an agreement between themselves to go forward with these emergency fixes... this here in Europe! We go in America: in America there is a great migration problem.  
(journalist inaudible)
In Latin America too there is an internal migration problem... in my homeland there is a migration problem from North to South and even these people leave the countryside because there is no work and the go to the big cities and where there are these megacities [or huge cities], the slums and all these things, but it is also an external migration to other countries that have work... and speaking concretely of the United States, I back that which the bishops of the country say. I side with them. Thank you.
Greg Burke:Thanks, Holiness. Now is the English group: Deborah Castellano Lubov of the Zenit Agency.
Deborah Castellano Lubov (Zenit): Thanks, Holiness! Holiness, in your address today to the ecumenical encounter you made reference to the enormous strength of the Gospel. We know some of the Churches, now the World Council of Churches, the so-called “pacifist Churches” who believe that a Christian cannot use violence. We remember that two years ago in the Vatican there was as conference organized. Do you think that it would be the case for the Catholic Church to unite to these so-called “Churches of peace” and set aside the doctrine of just war? Thanks.
Francis: A clarification, why do you say that there are “pacifist Churches?”
Deborah Castellano Lubov: They are considered as pacifist because they have this way of reasoning that if a person (intuits) a violence, at that point they can no longer be considered Christians.
Francis: Thanks. I understand. Because you put your finger right in the wound, eh? I think that… today at lunch a pastor said that maybe the first human right is the right to hope and I liked that. And this has to do a bit with this and we spoke about the crisis of human rights today. I think that I have to begin from this to arrive to your question.  The crisis of human rights is clearly seen. They speak a bit about human rights but so many groups or some countries take a distance, and “yes, human rights,” but there isn’t the strength, the enthusiasm, the conviction. I don’t say 70 years ago but 20 years ago. And this is grave because we have to see the causes, but what are the causes for which we have arrived to this that today human rights are relative. Also the right to peace is relative. It is a crisis of human rights. This I think that we must think it through to the end, or with certainty.
Then, Churches of peace. I think that all the Churches that have this spirit of peace must reunite and work together as we said in the speeches today, myself and the other people that spoke. And at lunch, unity for peace was spoken of. Peace is an exigency because there is risk of a war that we … some have said this: this third world war, if it is done, we know with which arms it will be done… but if there were a fourth, it would be done with sticks because humanity will be destroyed. The commitment for peace is serious, but when you think of the money that is spent on weapons… for this, the religions of peace… is the mandate of God. Peace, fraternity, human unity. All of the conflicts, don’t resolve them like Cain, resolve them with negotiations, with dialogue, with mediations… for example, we’re in a crisis of mediations. The mediation as a juridical figure (very rich) today is in pure crisis. Hope is in crisis, crisis of human rights, crisis of mediations, crisis of peace.
But then if you say that there are religions of peace, I ask myself, where are the religions of war? It’s tough to understand this. It’s tough. But, some groups, I would say in almost all of the small religious groups, I will say a bit simply fundamentalists, seek wars… Also we Catholics have some. They always seek destruction, no? And this is very important to have our eyes on it.  I don’t know if I replied. Thanks.
They say that the population is asking for lunch, eh, dinner, that there is just enough time to arrive with a full stomach. It’s just to tell you… a word that I want to say clearly that today was an ecumenical day, really ecumenical! And at lunch we said a beautiful word, a beautiful thing, that I leave with you so that you think on it and reflect, you make a nice consideration of this. In the ecumenical movement we have to take from the dictionary a word: “proselytism.” Clear? You cannot have ecumenism with proselytism. You have to choose. Either you have an ecumenical spirit or you are a proselytizer.
Thanks! I would continue speaking because I like it… but now let’s make the Substitute [of the Secretariat of State] come because it is the last trip he’ll make with us, because now he’s going to change color, but not for embarrassment! We want to say goodbye to him. It’s a Sardinian cake to celebrate!
Cardinal-elect Angelo Becciu (Sardinian-born Substitute of the Holy See Secretariat of State): Thanks! It is a double surprise of calling me and thanking me in front of you! And then there’s a Sardinian cake. Well, then, we’ll try it with pleasure! I truly thank the Holy Father for this occasion, but for everything, because he has allowed me this magnificent experience of traveling so much with him. At the beginning, he scared me saying, ‘No, I’ve made few trips.’ Do you remember? And then after one, he added another and then another and we said to ourselves, ‘good thing he said there would be few and they’ve been many.’ A magnificent experience of seeing the Holy Father spread the Word of God courageously. My service has been only this: to help him in this. Alright? Thanks to all of you and to those who have helped us! Thanks.
Francis: Buon appetito, have a good dinner and thanks so much! And pray for me, please. Thanks.

Another ugly monstrosity to add to his collection of ‘religious art’