Monday, January 22, 2018

Francis caps off his ‘Deforestation of Hope’ Tour with in-flight entertainment

Greg Burke: Holy Father, thank you after a long and intense journey, at times warm, where you touched people's hearts, the holy people faithful to God, with a message of peace and hope, but also faced the challenges of the Church in Chile, the Church in Peru and also the two societies, with a special intention for the human dignity of the indigenous peoples and for the Amazon. Thank you for the opportunity to follow it closely and now let’s try to delve a bit further into the themes of the trip. 
Francis: Good evening and thanks for your work. It was a trip... I don’t know how you say in Italian, but in Spanish you say “pasteurized,” as you do with milk. You don’t pass from cold to hot, from hot to cold. And we passed from the south of Chile, a fresh, beautiful landscape, to the desert, the forests of Maldonado, then to Trujillo, the sea, and then to Lima. All the temperatures and all the climes. And this is tiring. Thanks so much! Now, the questions.
Greg Burke: Yes. We have questions from Peru and Chile to start. Armando Canchanya.
Francis: Let’s start with those about the trip, all of them, and when we finish, if something is missing about the trip, I’ll tell you, and then the other questions if there are any.

Greg Burke: Perfect! Armando Canchanya of RPP, Perù

Armando Canchanya (RPP, Perù): Thanks for letting us accompany you. You went through three cities. I wanted to ask you about this trip. What does the Holy Father take with him from the trip to Peru?

Francis: I take the impression of a believing people who have had many difficulties and they had them historically. But they have a faith that impresses me, not only the faith in Trujillo, where popular piety is very rich and very strong, but also the faith on the streets, and not only in Lima where evidently you see it, but also in Trujillo, also in Puerto Maldonado, where I thought to have an event in a place like this one, but it was a full square and when left for another, the streets as well. It’s a people who went out to express their joy and their faith.

It is true that you have, as it says today at noon, a saintly land. They are the Latin American people who have more saints, and high-level saints. Toribio, Rosa, Martin, Juan. High level. I believe that faith has run deep, very deep ... I take from Peru an impression of joy, of faith, of hope, of [a people] walking again, and above all, many children. I returned to that image that I saw in the Philippines and Colombia, the dads and the moms along my route raising up their kids, and that says “future.” It says “hope,” because nobody brings a child into the world if they do not have hope.
The only thing I ask is that they take care of their wealth, not only that of the churches and the museums — that the works of art are great — and not only of the suffering, that have enriched them so much, but the riches that I have seen in these days.

Greg Burke: Thank you Holy Father! Now Giovanni Hinojosa from the Republic of Peru

Giovanni Hinojosa: The political class has defrauded the people with acts of corruption and negotiated pardons, but so have members of the Church, like the...

Francis: The problem of corruption...I wouldn't know how to respond to you historically, the progress of corruption of other countries in the world, you know that some countries in Europe there is a lot of corruption...some, not all. Yes in Latin (America) there are a lot of spotlights of corruption. Today this way of speaking about Odebrecht, for example. But this is a sample. The origin of corruption is...I would say that it is original sin which then carried...I wrote a booklet one time, very small, called "Sin and Corruption" and the motto I use is sinner yes, corrupt no. All of us are sinners, but I think that all of us here, at least I admit it on my part, treat a friend badly, steal, do drugs, or try not to...God's forgiveness is above all of this. I am not afraid of sin, I am afraid of corruption, because corruption impairs the body and the soul. And a corrupt person is so sure of themselves that they cannot go back. They are like those swamps that you try to get out of and they suck you [back]. It's a swamp. Yes, it's the destruction of the human person.

I don’t know if you want to ask something more about corruption. After I pass to the Sodalitium, no? Of course, the politician has a lot of power. The businessmen also has a lot of power. The businessmen who pays half of his workers is corrupt. And a housewife who is accustomed and believes that it is normal to exploit the maids either with salary or with the way she treats them, is corrupt. I remember a conversation I had with someone, a professional, young, 30 years old, who told me that he was carrying the thing, young, he was 30 years old. And he told me that he treated his domestic staff in a non-noble way. I told him, but you cannot do this, this is a sin. Father, he told me, we are not going to buy these people with me, these people are here for that. And this is what the sex trafficker thinks, the slave labor handler, they are corrupt.

And is there corruption in the Church? Yes, there are instances of corruption in the Church. This has always been so. Men and women of the Church have engaged in the game of corruption. And that serves as a bridge for the Sodalitium.

The situation of the Sodalitium began with the case of a person who appeared very virtuous, who died, and investigating his life, it was discovered that he had led a double life (Editor’s Note: he is referring to the case of German Doig Klinge, who died Feb. 13, 2001). This is the first chaos of the Sodalitium that I know of, but that happened in the past, twenty or twenty five years ago. And after that, there was an allegation of abuse, not only sexual, but of manipulation of the conscience by the founder. The case of the founder went to the Holy See, he was sentenced, he was not expelled from the Sodalitium, but he lives alone. One person attends to him. He declares himself to be innocent of the evidence of the case and has appealed to the Apostolic Signature, which is the supreme court of justice at the Vatican. According to the information I have, the appeal will be released in less than a month. It has been a year. But what has happened now? That trial was the trigger for other victims of this person to make civil and ecclesial claims. If the Apostolic Signatura decides in favor of the appeal, it will not make sense, because many, many serious cases are accumulating. Civil justice has intervened and, in this chaos, that is necessary, it is a matter of justice. I am not very informed, but the thing is very unfavorable for the founder.

On the other hand, this was not only a personal situation, there were things that weren't clear. Almost two years ago, I named a visitator in the person of Cardinal Tobin of Newark. Since the visit, he has discovered things that he doesn't understand and that aren't clear, and I named two economic viewers. And this is the third abuse, which also went up to the founder. And after a study, he recommended a custodian for the Sodalitium. Four weeks ago I sent the letter, and two weeks ago I named [him]. Concerning the procedures, it is a similar case to that of the Legionaries, which was carried out by Benedict XVI. In this, he was very strong. He didn't tolerate these things, and from him I’ve understood not to tolerate them as well. The legal status is [that they are] under a custodian, and the apostolic visit continues.

Greg Burke: Now, we’re passing on to Chile, with Juan Pablo Iglesias of La Tercera.

Juan Pablo Iglesias (La Tercera): At first, your message was very strong about [clerical sexual] abuse, but the last day [in Chile] you made a statement [saying some victims] are committing slander. Why do you believe Barros more than the victims?

Francis: I understand the question perfectly. On [Bishop] Barros, I only made one declaration. I spoke in Chile, and this was in Iquique, at the end. I spoke two times about the abuse, with a lot of strength, in front of the government, which was to speak in front of the country, and in the cathedral with the priests.

What I said to the priests is what I feel most deeply about this case. You know that Benedict XVI began by taking a zero tolerance [approach], and I have continued with zero tolerance. After almost 5 years of being Pope, I have not signed any "permission of pardon.” In the cases of dismissal from the clerical state, it's a definitive sentence in first instance. The person condemned has the right to appeal to the tribunal of the second instance. The tribunal knows that if there is clear proof of abuse, they cannot appeal the sentence. What can be appealed are the procedures: lack of procedures, irregularities, then there you have to make a review of the process. If the second instance confirms the first, there’s only one exit left for the person and that is appealing to the Pope, as a grace.

In five years, I have received — I don’t know the number — 20 or 25 requests for “grace” that have come in. I didn’t sign any. Only in one case, which wasn’t grace but the argument of a juridical sentence, in the first year of the pontificate.

I found myself with two sentences, one very serious from the diocese, and one from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which was the strongest. The one from the diocese was very serious and very conditioned… with these conditions, one needs to wait a time to see that… that is, the case wasn’t closed. (Editor note: The comments appear to refer to the case of Italian Mauro Inzoli)

As must be done with good jurisprudence, always in favor of the accused. I opted for the most lenient sentence, with the conditions.

After two years, it was decided that the conditions weren’t completed and so I let the other work. It was the only case in which I hesitated because there were two sentences and there was a juridical principle “in dubia pro reo” and so for this I opted for that. That is my position.

In the case of Bishop Barros, I had it studied, I had it investigated, I had it worked on a lot. And truly there is no evidence. I use the word evidence. Then I will speak about proof. There is no evidence of culpability, it seems that it will not be found. There is a coherence in another sense. I am waiting for evidence to change position, but I apply the judicial principle basic in any tribunal: “nemo malus nisi provetur” — no one is guilty until it is proven.

I used the word "proof" and I believe that gave me a hard time. I said it in Spanish, as I remember, I was entering and a journalist from Iquique asked me: ‘In Chile we have a big problem with Bishop Barros, what do you think?' I think that the words I said were these. First I thought about whether to respond or not, and I said yes [I would], because he had been bishop of Iquique, and a parishioner is asking me. I said, the day that I have proof I will speak. I think I said, ‘I don’t have proof,’ but it is recorded, you can find it.

The answer was: the day that I have proof, I will speak. The word 'proof' is what caused [concern]. No one is bad “sino probetur.” I would speak about evidence and, of course, I know that there are a lot of people who have been abused and that they cannot show proof, they do not have it. They cannot [show it] or sometimes they have it, but they are ashamed and hide it, and suffer in silence. The drama of those who have been abused is tremendous. Terrible. Two [months] ago I tended to a woman who was abused 40 years ago — 40, married with three children. This woman hadn’t received Communion from that time, because in the hand of the priest she saw the hand of the abuser. She couldn't go near. And she was a believer. She was Catholic. Sorry to continue in Spanish, but I want to be precise with the Chileans. The word “proof” wasn’t the best [word to use] in order to be near to a sorrowful heart. I would say evidence.

The case of Barros was studied, it was re-studied, and there is no evidence. That is what I wanted to say. I have no evidence to condemn. And if I were to condemn without evidence or without moral certainty, I would commit the crime of a bad judge.

I have another thing to say… I’ll explain it in Italian.

One of you came up to me and said: have you seen the letter that came out? They showed me a letter that I had written years ago when the problem with Barros began. I need to explain that letter, because it is also a letter in favor of prudence, how the problem with Barros was managed. That letter does not tell of a momentary fact; that letter is the narration of more or less 10-12 months. When the scandal with Karadima was discovered, we all know this scandal, we began to see many priests who were formed by Karadima who were either abused or who were abusers. In Chile there are four bishops who Karadima invited to the seminary. Someone from the episcopal conference made a suggestion that it would be better perhaps if these four bishops renounced their positions, resigned, took a sabbatical year while the storm passed, to avoid accusations, because they are good bishops.

And Barros, Barros already had been bishop there for 20 years and was about to finish his military bishopric. He was an auxiliary, then bishop of Iquique and then military bishop for almost 10 years, and 20 years a bishop. But let us ask if the accusations against him, perhaps explaining them...and he diligently resigned. And he came to Rome and I told him: ‘No, we don't play this way, because this is to admit culpability in advance, and then, as in any case, if there are culpable parties, it will be investigated.’ And I rejected it. This is about the 10 months contained in that letter. Then, when he was appointed and all this protest took place, he gave me his resignation for the second time. I said, ‘No, you go.’ I spoke with him for a long time, others spoke at length with him… you go. You know what happened there the day he took possession, the protests. They continued to investigate Barros, but there is no evidence and this is what I wanted to say: I cannot condemn him because I don't have the evidence and this is what I wanted to say. I cannot condemn him because I do not have the evidence. But I am also convinced that he is innocent.

I will pass to a third point, that of the letter I explained clearly: what those who have been abused feel. With this I have to ask forgiveness because the word "proof" wounded, it wounded many people who were abused, but I must go to look for the certificate, I have to do that — a word on translation, in the legal jargon, I wounded them. I ask them for forgiveness because I wounded them without realizing it, but it was an unintended wound. And this horrified me a lot, because I had received them. (But) in Chile I received two [abuse victims] as you know, I met others that I kept hidden. In every trip, there is always some possibility. The ones in Philadelphia were published, three (meetings) were published, then the other cases no… And I know how much they suffer, to feel that the Pope says in their face ‘bring me a letter, a proof.’ It's a slap. And I agree that my expression was not apt, because I didn't think, and I understand how the Apostle Peter, in one of his letters, says that the fire has been raised. This is what I can say with sincerity. Barros will remain there if I don't find a way to condemn him. I cannot condemn him if I don't have — I don't say proof — but evidence. And there are many ways to get evidence. Is that clear?

(They announce turbulence on the plane)

They tell me that after the turbulence of Barros and the Sodalitium, we have a more meteorological one...I’ll stay here.

(He sits in a row of seats with the journalists during the turbulence).

Matilde Burgos, CNN Espanol: (Follow up question about Bishop Barros and about a possible distance between the Pope and the people in Chile)

Francis: The case maybe started with the bad decision of the resignation, and he began to be accused. But there is no evidence of abuse. Covering up an abuse is abuse. There is no evidence. There isn’t. The best they believe is this, to provide the evidence quickly. If you think it is like this honestly. I, in this moment, do not think it is so, because there is none. But my heart is open to receive it.

And the other from Chile is made up.

I came from Chile happy, I did not expect that many people in the street. And they weren’t paying an entry fee. The people were not paid nor taken in collectively. The spontaneity of Chile was very strong, even in Iquique, and I thought it was going to be a little thing. But you saw what it was. In the south, the same and in Santiago, the same. The streets of Santiago spoke for themselves.

In this, I think that the responsibility of the informant is to go to the concrete facts. There was this, and this. The thing about a divided people, I do not know where it comes from, it is the first time I hear of it. Maybe Barros is the cause of this, but placing it in its reality it could be because of this. But my impression of Chile was very strong and rewarding. Then, I would like to go back a moment to what most moved me about Chile, at least a moment.

Greg Burke: Let's move on to the Italian group. Andrea Tornielli, Vatican Insider.

Andrea Tornielli (Vatican Insider/La Stampa): Your Holiness, I wanted to talk about what you said in the past day in the Amazon, because there was a new element in that speech: not only the threat posed by the big economic groups, but also the threat — indeed you have talked about perversion — of some environmental policies that end up stifling people's lives. So is there an environmentalism that is against man?

Francis: Yes, yes in that area, I could not at this moment describe it well, but to protect the forest and to save some tribes who ended up outside the forest, because the forest is being finished by exploitation. But the most concrete fact of this case is in the statistics of the area. You will surely find the precise data. It is a phenomenon of preserving the environment and then isolating it, they have remained isolated from real progress. The number that was given there, in that area, the information they sent to prepare the trip, I have studied it.

Greg Burke: Aura Miguel, of Radio Renascenca.

Aura Miguel (Radio Renascenca): The wedding on the airplane. From now on, what would you say to the parish priests, to the bishops will be asked by couples if they can marry them I don’t know where, on the beach, on boats, airplanes?

Francis: You’re imagining a cruise with a wedding. Eh, this would be… One of you told me that I’m crazy for doing these things. The thing was simple. The man was on the first flight. She wasn’t there. I spoke with him… then, I realized that he had become awkward. I spoke of life of how I thought of life, then the life of the family. A nice chat. Then, the day after both of them were there and after we took a photograph, they told me this: ‘We were going to get married in a church, we were married civilly, but the day before’ - you could tell it was a small city - ‘the church was toppled by an earthquake and there was no wedding.’ This was 10 years ago, maybe eight, the earthquake was in 2010, eight years ago. And then [they thought]: “tomorrow we’ll do it,” and “the day after tomorrow.” That’s the way life goes and then the daughter [came] and another daughter. I interrogated them a bit. And the answers were clear, for their whole life…. “You know these things. Do you have a good memory of the catechism?” “We have taken the pre-matrimonial classes.” They were prepared and I judged that they were prepared. They asked me. Sacraments are for people. All of the conditions were clear and why not do today … and not delay it for tomorrow… and maybe after ‘tomorrow’ it would have been eight or 10 years more. This is the answer. I judged that they were prepared, that they knew what they were doing, that each of them was prepared before the Lord with the sacrament of penance. When they had arrived at that point, it was all over. They told me that, they said it to some of you… “We’re going to the Pope to ask if he’ll marry us.” That’s how the thing went. But tell the parish priests that the Pope interrogated them well. And then they had done the pre-marriage course, and they were aware.

Greg Burke: Holiness, we’ve done almost an hour, but I don’t know if we can still do one or two [questions].

Francis: Yes, about the trip.

Greg Burke: On the trip. Nicole Winfield, Associated Press

Francis: Yes, because about Peru, almost nothing [has been asked].

Nicole Winfield (AP): Ah, no more Chile... Holy Father, yesterday Cardinal O’Malley made a statement on these comments about Bishop Barros and he said that words such as these are a source of pain for the survivors of abuse with the effect of making them feel abandoned and discredited… you said that you didn’t feel well [at knowing the victims felt abandoned], and I imagine, I wonder if it was precisely the words of Cardinal O’Malley that made you realize the pain [caused], and then a question linked to this: the Commission for the Protection of Minors, led by Cardinal O’Malley. There was the expiration last month of the first members. There are people who see in this expiration, they ask themselves if this is a sign of a “non-priority” of the protection of minors.

Francis: I understand, I understand. On Cardinal O'Malley, I saw his statement, and he said, "the Pope has always upheld this, the Pope has zero tolerance, the Pope said the other.. with this unhappy expression."

And this has made me think of the word "proof." [It is] calumny, [if] anyone says with obstinacy, without evidence, that he did this, he did that... it is calumny. If I say that he stole and he did not steal, then I am slandering [him], because I do not have evidence, I do not have evidence that he did that to them.

But I have not heard of any victim of Barros... they have not come, they have not given evidences of the judgment. It is a little up in the air. It is a thing that you cannot assume.

You, with goodwill, tell me: there are victims [of Bishop Barros, or of the alleged coverage of Bishop Barros]. But I have not seen them because they have not come to me. It is true that Barros was part of the group of young men [around Karadima]. Barros entered the seminary, I don't know when, but he has been a bishop 24 years. He was probably a priest 15 years, many years. He entered as a very young man,... he says that he did not see it, he was part of the group but then he went another way. And on this we should be clear. One that accuses without evidence, with obstinacy, this is calumny.

But if a person comes and gives me the evidence, I am the first to listen to him. We should be just. I have an appreciation for Cardinal O'Malley, I thank him for his statement because it was very just. He said all that I did and that I do, that the Church does, and then he spoke of the sorrow of the victims. Not in this case, in general. Because many victims feel that they are not able to bring [forward] a document or a testimonial.

The commission was appointed for 3 years I believe, it has expired. I will study a new commission and they, the same commission, decided to renew a part, to nominate new members and others renew. But also before the start of the trip, the definitive list of the commission has come, and now it follows (that) there were some observations on someone that they should clarify, because they are studying the new people. There were two observations that they should clear up. Cardinal O'Malley has worked well, has worked as he should. No, please, do not think that... the time has been a normal amount of time for a nomination of people.

Greg Burke: Holiness, we’ll do a final question, if it’s about the trip.

Unknown Journalist: One of the aims of the Church is to fight against poverty. Chile, in 20 years has lowered the poverty level to 11 percent. Is it, in your perspective, the result of a liberal political [system]? Is there good in liberalism, do you think? I have another small question regarding Cardinal Maradiaga: what do you think of the news of money that regards him? Thanks.

Francis: About Cardinal Maradiaga, it’s not from the trip but I will answer: he has made a signed statement. I say what he said.

About liberalism, I will say that we have to study the cases of liberal politics well. There are other countries in Latin America with liberal politics. I’m not a technician, but in general a liberal political [system] that doesn’t engage all of the peoples, leads downwards. I don’t know in Chile but we see that in other Latin American countries, things are going down.

About the trip, I would like to say something that really moved me: the women’s jail. Well, I have an ever sensitive heart… I’m very sensitive the jails and inmates. I always ask myself about jails, why them and not me. But, to see these women, to see the creativity of these women, the capacity for change, their capacity to change their lives, to reinsert themselves in society with the force of the Gospel. One of you told me that I saw the joy of the children. It moved me. And, I was very moved by that meeting, one of the most beautiful things of the trip. Then, at Puerto Maldonado, that meeting with the indigenous. We are there because obviously - in a moment you’re in their world, no? - that day was the first meeting of the Synod for the Amazon, which will be in 2019. I was so moved by the “Hogar Principito”, to see these kids, the majority abandoned, those young boys and girls who were able, with education, to move ahead. They are professionals. It moved me so much. It’s a work to bring the person upwards. This moved me so much.

Then, the people, the warmth of the people. And today it was unbelievable what was there. The warmth of the people, and I say this nation has faith. This faith was contagious for me and I thank God, and I thank you for the work that awaits you, to write articles and news on the questions you’ve asked me. Thanks for your patience and thanks for the questions. Many thanks.

Greg Burke: Thanks, Holiness, for you patience. Have a good rest and a good dinner.

Sunday, January 21, 2018

the new evangelization in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Deacon Anthony Dilenno 
making a mockery 
at the novus ordo mess

 (click image to enlarge)

His daughter posted the above 
photo with this comment below.

“I’m your dog, f*&@, s%#$!”

“Home dogs gonna eat!”
Lane Johnson #65

“Give not that which is holy to dogs: neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, tear you.” 
Gospel According to St. Matthew 7, 6

What?! #2

I’ve said this many times: do you know what a gossip nun is? A terrorist! Gossip is a bomb: you throw it, it destroys everything and then you leave. Don’t be terrorist Sisters no!


"Laughter saves us from the “self-absorbed Promethean neo-Pelagianism of those who ultimately trust only in their own powers and feel superior to others”"

Friday, January 19, 2018

the emperor has no clothes

long live the emperor!

Francis went to the peripheries on January 18th in Lobito Beach (Playa Labito) in Iquique, Chile, home to nearly two dozen migrant slums to celebrate his mess.  Preparations were made for over 300,000 fawning fans but according to television reports only 90,000 (if it was that many) were in attendance. 

(click images to enlarge)

Here’s a screenshot of the January 17th meeting Francis had with the youth of Chile at the Shrine of Maipù at the Basílica de Nuestra Señora del Carmen in Santiago, Chile.  As one can see the turnout wasn’t very good.

*Thanks to Antonio Socci for pointing this out on his facebook page.

So the question is: 

Do the citizens of Chile not like Argentinians very much?


Are the medias covering up Francis’ unpopularity?

Put on your surprise face... the wedding ceremony Francis conducted at 36,000 feet looks to have been planned in advance!

The article excerpted below was published by Emol Nacional on 19 December 2017.

In our previous post, Another one from the ‘You can’t make this stuff up’ file — Francis marries couple aboard airplane flight Francis’ Flying Circus, we wrote:

Well, it turns out to have been planned as both Carlos and Paula (the steward and stewardess) said in an interview, published on 19 December 2017, how they wanted Francis to marry them while in the sky!

Excerpt begins...

Marriage in the air

Carlos and Paula met 10 years ago on board of an airplane, and there they have lived their lives so far. "It's already our home," he said. Therefore, to receive Jorge Bergoglio there "is an honor for us, not only as a family, but as workers of this company to be entrusted in such a great mission for our company."

In fact, the crew members were chosen as among the best in the company. While Podest was awarded as "Service Leader" this [year] 2017, Ciuffardi won the award last year.

Paula assured that "this is [not only] a recognition that they are giving us, but all those who are here are service leaders, all have been highlighted in some way by the company."

Both were married in a civil service eight years ago and they now have two daughters, 3 and 6 years old.  Nevertheless, they plan to get married in the Church soon, what they didn't manage to do: the date of the marriage was set for February 27, 2010.

"We couldn't get married in the Church because the of earthquake in 2010, the church fell, everything fell, so we started to postpone it, we started working, then our daughters arrived," Ciuffardi said.

Thus, both hope that in January this delayed plan can finally materialize on the plane and be guided by none other than Pope Francis himself. "We would love it, it's our place, it's our second home, it's where we feel safe," Podest said.
(English translation by CMJ)

 Spanish original...

Matrimonio en los aires 

Carlos y Paula se conocieron hace 10 años arriba de un avión, y ahí han formado su vida hasta el momento. "Es nuestra casa ya", aseguró él. Por eso, recibir a Jorge Bergoglio allí "es un honor para nosotros, no solamente como familia, sino como trabajadores de esta empresa de poder ser encomendados en tal magna misión para nuestra empresa".

De hecho, los tripulantes fueron escogidos entre los mejores de la compañía. Mientras Podest fue premiada como "Líder de Servicio" este 2017, Ciuffardi obtuvo el galardón el año pasado.

Paula aseguró que "este es un reconocimiento que nos están haciendo, pero todos los que están acá son líderes de servicio, todos han sido destacados de alguna manera por la compañía".

Ambos se casaron por el civil hace ocho años y ahora tienen dos hijas, de 3 y 6 años. Sin embargo, planeaban casarse por la Iglesia al poco tiempo, lo que no alcanzaron a hacer: la fecha del matrimonio estaba fijada para el 27 de febrero de 2010.

"No pudimos casarnos por la Iglesia porque fue el terremoto de 2010, se cayeron las iglesia, se cayó todo. Así que lo empezamos a aplazar, empezamos a trabajar, después llegaron las hijas", contó Ciuffardi.
Así, ambos esperan que en enero próximo este postergado plan pueda finalmente concretarse sobre el avión y dirigido nada menos que por el mismísimo Papa Francisco. "Nos encantaría. Es nuestro lugar, es nuestra segunda casa, es donde nos sentimos seguros", manifestó Podest.
source: Emol Nacional, Con emoción y nerviosismo: Tripulación del avión que trasladará al Papa en Chile cuenta cómo recibieron la noticia

P. T. Barnum could learn a trick or two from 
Francis and his Flying Circus!

Thursday, January 18, 2018

Another one from the ‘You can’t make this stuff up’ file — Francis marries couple aboard airplane flight

Francis’ Flying Circus

"A small ceremony was started in the place, he asked us for the rings and he asked us if there was love in our marriage, if we wanted to continue together our entire lives," said Carlos Ciuffardi, cabin crewman and brand new husband of Paula Podest, cabin manager.

The Pope asked Ciuffardi if Paula was still the boss, to which she replied "yes".

"And I'm still the boss," she added smiling.
source: La Cronica, Papa realiza primera boda en avión

Francis presides at the wedding ceremony of Latam Airlines flight attendants Carlos Ciuffardi Elorriaga and Paula Podest Ruiz, civilly married for ten years with two daughters — Rafaella, 6, and Isabella, 3.

Paula Podest Ruiz, 39, and Carlos Ciuffardi Elorriga, 41, told Francisco that they were married as a civilian, and although they had planned their religious ceremony in a church in Santiago, it could not be carried out because it suffered serious damage in the earthquake of 2010.

Because of this, the crew members asked for the blessing for their marriage. But he had something else in mind.

"Do you want me to marry you?" Asked the Supreme Pontiff. "Here?" Replied the astonished spouses.

The Pope said yes and made a brief ceremony in the front of the plane.

Ignacio Cueto, chairman of the board of LATAM Airlines, was an official witness and a document was signed by a Chilean bishop on board.

"Everything is valid. Everything is official, "said Vatican spokesman Greg Burke. "We will show you an image of the document later," he added.


Bride Paola Podest, 39, and groom Carlos Ciuffardi, 41, said “I do” after telling Francis that they had been married in a civil service in 2010 but had been unable to follow up with a church ceremony because of the Feb. 27, 2010, earthquake that rocked Chile.

Francis then offered to marry the LATAM flight attendants aboard the aircraft en route to the northern city of Iquique, and they readily agreed. The head of the airline served as the witness.

“He told me it’s historic, that there has never before been a pope who married someone aboard a plane,” Ciuffardi told journalists in the aisle of the Airbus 321.

Ciuffardi said the pope also told them: “This is the sacrament that is missing in the world, the sacrament of marriage. May this motivate others to get the sacrament of marriage. I’ll do it for this reason.”

source: Time, Pope Francis Performs First Airborne Papal Wedding During Flight in Chile

The hand-written document, signed by Francis, attesting to the wedding of  
Paula Podest Ruiz and Carlos Ciuffardi Elorriaga aboard the papal plane.

The remarkable wedding transpired seemingly spontaneously, as is often the case with the ever-surprising Francis: The flight crew was gathering in the front of the plane for a photo with the pope when the couple told him they were married and he motioned for them to sit next to him.

"We told him that we are husband and wife, that we have two daughters and that we would have loved to receive his blessing," Ciuffardi said. "All of a sudden he asked us if we were married in the church, too."

The couple explained that their church's bell tower had fallen during the quake, forcing the cancellation of the service. One thing led to another, and they never followed up.

"He liked us and he asked, 'Do you want me to marry you?'" Ciuffardi recounted. "He asked: 'Are you sure?' 'Yes, of course!' we said."

A Vatican official hastily drew up an official, albeit handwritten marriage certificate, stating that the two had consented to the sacrament of marriage on Jan. 18 and that Francis had celebrated the marriage "aboard the papal plane from Santiago to Iquique."

A stunned Podest was nearly speechless during the remaining hour on the flight as she recounted the story to the 70 or so journalists who travel with the pope on his foreign trips.

She said Francis offered a bit of advice to the not-so-newlyweds: "The wedding rings shouldn't be too tight, because they'll torture you, but if they're too loose, they'll fall off. So we have to be careful," she said blushing.

Podest said she and Ciuffardi had also explained to Francis that when they first started dating, she was his boss at LATAM. Francis asked if she was still the boss, and both readily agreed.

"And that's why the marriage works," Ciuffardi said.

After applause — and a breakfast of fresh fruit, croissants, coffee and tea — the plane landed in Iquique and the couple bid the passengers farewell.

"We hope you had a good flight," the bride said.

source: ABC 13 News, Love in the air: Pope marries couple on papal plane in Chile

To recap, a steward and a stewardess were civilly married in 2010 because the church they were to marry in collapsed in an earthquake.  They couldn’t find another church during the eight years of their civil marriage apparently because they were too busy raising their two daughters and flying around South America working.  Yep and this couple just happened to be so lucky as to meet Francis on the airplane where coincidence of coincidences he spontaneously proposed to marry them, in order to “motivate others to get the sacrament of marriage.”  What’s the difference between a religious wedding in a church with a Mass and the performance that Francis just gave?  Apparently not much in the eyes of the Novus Ordo!  It’s all good, as Greg Burke assured them, “Everything is valid. Everything is official.”  An obvious Opus-(Ju)Dei photo-op.

“the great majority of our sacramental marriages are null.”

Wednesday, January 17, 2018

The Francis Show in Chile — the “deforestation of hope” tour

a few of the highlights lowlights...

“I found this by chance. It was taken in 1945; on the back is the information. It is a boy carrying his dead brother, standing in line before the crematorium in Nagasaki, after the bombing. I was moved when I saw this [picture], and I dared write only “the fruits of war”. And I thought of reprinting it and giving it, because a picture like this says more than a thousand words. So I wanted to share it with you.” — Francis on airplane to Chile

“What puts you in a bad mood?”

Someone threw at hat at Francis

Hat reads, “Pray for the Chilean family.”

“It’s important you speak and don’t let yourself be silenced.”

The indigenous pagan mess of Mapuche with gender fluid machis (shamans) — does it ever stop?

“The laypersons don’t have to parrot back whatever we say”

Blah, blah, blah....

“Your patronal feasts, your religious dances - which at times go on for a week - your music, your dress, all make this region a shrine of popular piety. Because the party does not remain inside the Church, you turn the whole town into a party.”

“Where vocation is concerned, there is no such thing as a selfie! Vocation demands that somebody else take your picture, and that is what we are about to do!”

Click here, for more on the planned wedding at 36,000 feet.

Popemobile narrowly misses hitting thrown carabinera.

Francis ‘the humble’ shows concern...staged?

Another angle of the accident

Stay tuned....

the circus’ next stop is Peru!

Monday, January 15, 2018

A portent of bad things to come?

Cristo del Pacífico (The Christ of the Pacific) burns

the fire broke out early this past Saturday morning

a short circuit in the statue caused the fire

Francis and his traveling circus are due to arrive 
in Peru on Thursday the 18th of January.

Francis candidly jokes that ‘witch doctor’ is behind his stamina

Francis on his way to Chile.

On the papal airplane from Rome to Chile, Francis offered his latest off the cuff quip.
“Loud laughter accompanied the joke Francis made in response to the query asked by Cristiana Caricato, a journalist of TV2000, who, (upon) greeting him, had asked him: “We want to know what the doctor gives you so that we can take it too, we who struggle just as you do” — a reference to Bergoglio’s stamina during these trips. “But I do not go to the doctor, I go to the witch!”, he said, laughing with gusto.”

source: La Stampa, Vatican Insider, Che medicine prendo? Vado dalla strega! (English translation CMJ)

As is usual with Francis’ jokes there is always a grain of truth to his answers.  In the past Francis has:
  • told several blasphemous jokes about Our Lord (see #1, #2, #3),
  • we could go on but we think one gets the point.

All of these ‘jokes’ reveal facets of Francis’ inner-JewFrancis publicly maintains that, “One cannot provoke, one cannot insult other people’s faith, one cannot make fun of faith.”  Notice what he never jokes about Talmudic Judaism, the Holocaust, or noahidism — a synthesis of all heresies.  All these are strictly off limits while the Catholic faith is open to mocking jests.  We are digressing, returning to Francis reply, Francis does see witch doctors — typically they come to visit him.  Below are two of the witch doctors whom have visited Francis in the Vatican.

Liu Ming is a Taoist monk (aka witch) who has been Jorge Bergoglio’s
doctor since 2004.  He disturbingly practices Reiki energy on Francis.

A shaman (aka witch) performs an incantation on 
Francis (15 February 2017) in the Vatican.

So one can see the truth in Francis’ latest joke.  The question arises whom is Francis mocking when he jokingly but truthfully replies that ‘visits from witch-doctors give him stamina’?  Simply, the answer is the typical pewsitter that thinks Francis is a practicing Catholic.  Francis has nothing but contempt for these people as his mocking jests and  candid jokes reveal.

Friday, January 12, 2018

Francis makes pro-abortion and pro-LGBT Dutch politician, Lilianne Ploumen, a Commander in The Pontifical Equestrian Order of St. Gregory the Great

Lilianne crows with delight while she shows 
off her medal she received in June 2017.

According to the Catholic Encyclopedia (1917), Pontifical Decorations — Order of St. Gregory the Great,
“Gregory XVI founded this order to reward the civil and military virtues of subjects of the Papal States by brief "Quod Summis", 1 Sept., 1831, and placed it under the patronage of the great pope whose name it bears.”

What were Lilianne’s civic and military virtues?  She set up and campaigned for the ‘safe abortion’ fund SheDecides as well as supports special rights for the perversions of the LGBT crowd.  Oh, the countless of murders she bears responsibility for and the immorality she spreads, why not award her with papal knighthood?

 Francis and then Dutch foreign minister, Lilianne Ploumen, met in 2015 to discuss the climate.

Who’s next, Emma Bonino?

Rabbi Abraham Skorka and his sin of omission

Rabbi Skorka has said publicly that he is Francis “roving ambassador” but it is more truthful to say that he’s Francis’ handler.  The rabbi gave a lecture, Nostra Aetate, past and future, at the International Council of Christians and Jews’ (ICCJ) Rome Conference 2015: ‘The 50th Anniversary of Nostra Aetate: The Past, Present and Future of the Christian-Jewish Relationship’.  In this speech Skorka explained that Christianity has play a key role in anti-semitism and that the Shoah demonstrates the futility of Christianity — its moral bankruptcy.  During his talk Skorka trots out the old canard that all the evidence of Pius XII has never been seen and states that,
“the issue of the role played by perennial Christian antisemitism in providing a seedbed for twentieth-century Nazi racism still awaits full exploration. A clear and unambiguous reckoning by Christians of all denominations is still expected by Jews with regard to all the components of Christian anti-Semitism, not only those found in the Patristic literature, but also those contributory elements that can be found in the New Testament, such as...”

Skorka then concludes with the following:
“For Catholics, the new approach and dialogue with Jews based on Nostra Aetate's theological statements, opens a theological quest: Since the "Old Covenant" has never been revoked, what does the living faith and practice of the Jewish People today mean for Christian faith and self-understanding? For Jews, the new relationship means to take more to heart Maimonides’ statement in his authoritative Code :
 It is beyond the human mind to fathom the designs of the Creator; for our ways are not His ways, neither are our thoughts His thoughts. All these matters relating to Jesus of Nazareth and the Ishmaelite (Mohammed) who came after him served to clear the way for King Messiah, to prepare the whole world to worship God with one accord, as it is written, “For then will I turn to the peoples a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord to serve Him with one consent” (Zephaniah 3: 9) Thus the messianic hope, the Torah, and the commandments have become familiar topics –topics of conversation (among the inhabitants) of the far islands of many peoples . . .
There is still a long way before us until Nostra Aetate in its body and spirit will be incorporated into the heart of all the churches and parishes throughout the world, and to become a deeper challenge for Jewish vision on Christianity.

But still, the next step must be to think and to analyze the present dramatic moment in humankind’s history in order to continue paving a way for a better future. We have been given an opportunity to be "a blessing to one another," as John Paul II put it. It is therefore our duty in the years ahead to make the most of this unprecedented moment.”

We will only concern ourselves with the quote from Maimonides.  Unsaid in his speech but footnoted for the statement from Maimonides is: “Hilkhot Melakhim 11: 4, according the uncensored editions of Soncino 5250 (1490), Constantinopolis 5269 (150 9) and Amsterdam 5462 (1702). The translation was taken from Herschel’s essay quoted in the footnote No. 28, p. 248.”  The essay of Abraham Heschel referred to is “No Religion is an Island” published in “Abraham Joshua Heschel, Moral Grandeur and Spiritual Audacity, edited by Susannah Heschel, Farrar, Straus & Giroux, New York, 1996, p. 248”.  Here we have Skorka admit that there are uncensored editions of Maimonides quote however he uses Heschel’s edited one.  In 2012 Skorka published a paper titled, “Jewish Identity and Jewish-Christian Dialogue A View from Argentina”.  This paper examines Heschel’s “No Religion is an Island” and the themes it contains.  In it Skorka refers to the same quote, states that it only appears in uncensored editions of the Maimonides’ Mishneh Torah, and then quotes it from the Chabad-Lubutavitcher website:
“Ultimately, all the deeds of Jesus of Nazareth and that Ishmaelite [Mohammed] who arose after him will only serve to prepare the way for Mashiach’s [the Messiah’s] coming and the improvement of the entire world, motivating the nations to serve God together as Tzephaniah 3:9 states: “I will transform the peoples to a purer language that they all will call upon the name of God and serve Him with one purpose [Lit.: shoulder to shoulder].””

Here is where Rabbis Skorka’s sin of omission come into play.  The following is the quote in its context.

To which we add that the Chabad website referenced prefaces the above with,

Wow!  Skorka blames the Shoah on the Christians, has the chutzpah to state that all Christian denominations need to have their New Testament and writings of the early church fathers reexamined in order to cleanse, “[their] soul[s] of its role in contributing to anti-Semitism.”  Skora then has the audacity to be duplicitous towards his Christian audiences concerning what Talmudists truly believe about Jesus the Christ.   One can see from this that Conservative Judaism (Masorti Judaism) which Skorka professes isn’t very different from its kissing cousin Hasidism — for they are both Talmudic, lying, and deny Our Lord and Savior.  When will the ravings of the rabbis and their various Talmudic religions be reexamined by Catholics so they can be purged of their anti-Goyimism?

Don’t think for one instant that Francis is ignorant of any of this.  Recall in September 2017, Francis sat approvingly as Rav Dr. Ratzon Arusi said, “that we may work together to fulfill the vision articulated by Maimonides.”  Also, when he was but the cardinal archbishop of Buenos Aires he attended a museum exhibit in 2004 on Maimonides and a few years later in 2008 accepted the Maimonides Award for Inter-religious Dialogue!  Is it any wonder that Rabbi Skorka is Francis’ close personal friend?