Showing posts with label Moslem invaders. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Moslem invaders. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 2, 2019

'Humble' Francis the destroyer of Christendom, ‘It is not just about migrants. It’s about not excluding anyone.’


Blabby Francis...



...should shut up...


...and read the Holy Bible

“For the poor you have always with you: but me you have not always.” 
Matthew 26, 11

For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me [...] After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him.” 
John 6, 56-58 & 67

Tuesday, April 10, 2018

Gaudy and (excessively) Excruciating — Francis’ new Apostolic Exhortation is released




Christ may be resurrected but Francis doesn't want you to rejoice in it. For in this Easter season he has released another Apostolic Exhortation full of his banal modernist thoughts and in the process heaped a Cross onto the backs of pewsitters that take the Novus Ordo seriously. This rumored encyclical instead turned out to be an Apostolic Exhortation but don’t worry it’s filled with a strong condemnation of Catholics neopelagians. The burdensome Gaudete et exsultate (Rejoice and be glad) was launched with its own video trailer. Watch it and see what you will learn from reading the document.




some of the excerpted lowlights
(by no means is it to be considered exhaustive)

(bold is ours for emphasis, our comments in italics)

A contemplative life is bad
26. It is not healthy to love silence while fleeing interaction with others, to want peace and quiet while avoiding activity, to seek prayer while disdaining service. Everything can be accepted and integrated into our life in this world, and become a part of our path to holiness. We are called to be contemplatives even in the midst of action, and to grow in holiness by responsibly and generously carrying out our proper mission. 
Traditionalists (aka pelagians) are bad 
58. Not infrequently, contrary to the promptings of the Spirit, the life of the Church can become a museum piece or the possession of a select few. This can occur when some groups of Christians give excessive importance to certain rules, customs or ways of acting. The Gospel then tends to be reduced and constricted, deprived of its simplicity, allure and savour. This may well be a subtle form of pelagianism, for it appears to subject the life of grace to certain human structures. It can affect groups, movements and communities, and it explains why so often they begin with an intense life in the Spirit, only to end up fossilized… or corrupt.
Francis is an oppressor because he apes the Faith 
94. Persecutions are not a reality of the past, for today too we experience them, whether by the shedding of blood, as is the case with so many contemporary martyrs, or by more subtle means, by slander and lies. Jesus calls us blessed when people “utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account” (Mt 5:11). At other times, persecution can take the form of gibes that try to caricature our faith and make us seem ridiculous.
Francis want charity without discrimination for one’s responsibilities
98. If I encounter a person sleeping outdoors on a cold night, I can view him or her as an annoyance, an idler, an obstacle in my path, a troubling sight, a problem for politicians to sort out, or even a piece of refuse cluttering a public space. Or I can respond with faith and charity, and see in this person a human being with a dignity identical to my own, a creature infinitely loved by the Father, an image of God, a brother or sister redeemed by Jesus Christ. That is what it is to be a Christian! Can holiness somehow be understood apart from this lively recognition of the dignity of each human being?[82]
Don’t fret over communism and stop protesting abortion so strongly
101. The other harmful ideological error is found in those who find suspect the social engagement of others, seeing it as superficial, worldly, secular, materialist, communist or populist. Or they relativize it, as if there are other more important matters, or the only thing that counts is one particular ethical issue or cause that they themselves defend. Our defence of the innocent unborn, for example, needs to be clear, firm and passionate, for at stake is the dignity of a human life, which is always sacred and demands love for each person, regardless of his or her stage of development. Equally sacred, however, are the lives of the poor, those already born, the destitute, the abandoned and the underprivileged, the vulnerable infirm and elderly exposed to covert euthanasia, the victims of human trafficking, new forms of slavery, and every form of rejection.[84] We cannot uphold an ideal of holiness that would ignore injustice in a world where some revel, spend with abandon and live only for the latest consumer goods, even as others look on from afar, living their entire lives in abject poverty.  
Welcome the invading Moslem hordes into your countries
102. We often hear it said that, with respect to relativism and the flaws of our present world, the situation of migrants, for example, is a lesser issue. Some Catholics consider it a secondary issue compared to the “grave” bioethical questions. That a politician looking for votes might say such a thing is understandable, but not a Christian, for whom the only proper attitude is to stand in the shoes of those brothers and sisters of ours who risk their lives to offer a future to their children. Can we not realize that this is exactly what Jesus demands of us, when he tells us that in welcoming the stranger we welcome him (cf. Mt 25:35)? Saint Benedict did so readily, and though it might have “complicated” the life of his monks, he ordered that all guests who knocked at the monastery door be welcomed “like Christ”,[85] with a gesture of veneration;[86] the poor and pilgrims were to be met with “the greatest care and solicitude”.[87]
103. A similar approach is found in the Old Testament: “You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you yourselves were strangers in the land of Egypt” (Ex 22:21). “When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt” (Lev 19:33-34). This is not a notion invented by some Pope, or a momentary fad. In today’s world too, we are called to follow the path of spiritual wisdom proposed by the prophet Isaiah to show what is pleasing to God. “Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own kin? Then your light shall break forth like the dawn” (58:7-8). 
Blogs such as Call Me Jorge... are bad
115. Christians too can be caught up in networks of verbal violence through the internet and the various forums of digital communication. Even in Catholic media, limits can be overstepped, defamation and slander can become commonplace, and all ethical standards and respect for the good name of others can be abandoned. The result is a dangerous dichotomy, since things can be said there that would be unacceptable in public discourse, and people look to compensate for their own discontent by lashing out at others. It is striking that at times, in claiming to uphold the other commandments, they completely ignore the eighth, which forbids bearing false witness or lying, and ruthlessly vilify others. Here we see how the unguarded tongue, set on fire by hell, sets all things ablaze (cf. Jas 3:6).
A cloistered life isn't good
140. When we live apart from others, it is very difficult to fight against concupiscence, the snares and temptations of the devil and the selfishness of the world. Bombarded as we are by so many enticements, we can grow too isolated, lose our sense of reality and inner clarity, and easily succumb.
Discernment is the key to everything & change is good except when it’s not good.  If we block change we are blocking the Holy Spirit.
166. How can we know if something comes from the Holy Spirit or if it stems from the spirit of the world or the spirit of the devil? The only way is through discernment, which calls for something more than intelligence or common sense. It is a gift which we must implore. If we ask with confidence that the Holy Spirit grant us this gift, and then seek to develop it through prayer, reflection, reading and good counsel, then surely we will grow in this spiritual endowment.
An urgent need
167. The gift of discernment has become all the more necessary today, since contemporary life offers immense possibilities for action and distraction, and the world presents all of them as valid and good. All of us, but especially the young, are immersed in a culture of zapping. We can navigate simultaneously on two or more screens and interact at the same time with two or three virtual scenarios. Without the wisdom of discernment, we can easily become prey to every passing trend.
168. This is all the more important when some novelty presents itself in our lives. Then we have to decide whether it is new wine brought by God or an illusion created by the spirit of this world or the spirit of the devil. At other times, the opposite can happen, when the forces of evil induce us not to change, to leave things as they are, to opt for a rigid resistance to change. Yet that would be to block the working of the Spirit. We are free, with the freedom of Christ. Still, he asks us to examine what is within us – our desires, anxieties, fears and questions – and what takes place all around us – “the signs of the times” – and thus to recognize the paths that lead to complete freedom. “Test everything; hold fast to what is good” (1 Thess 5:21).
Best footnote ever
[73] Detraction and calumny are acts of terrorism: a bomb is thrown, it explodes and the attacker walks away calm and contented. This is completely different from the nobility of those who speak to others face to face, serenely and frankly, out of genuine concern for their good.

Gaudete et exsultate, Apostolic Exhortation of Francis (19 March 2018).


Who wrote this? Was it Francis’ perverted ghostwriter, ‘Smoochie’ Fernandez? It has to be because it’s as if the majority of the document is a copy-and-paste job from Fernandez’s writings and the speeches of Francis. It reads like a new age book filled with sophisms. Don’t worry, if you take ‘Gaudete et exsultate’ to heart, ‘Smoochie’ and Francis will heal you with kisses and spiritual hugs, unless you practice the Catholic Faith...so rejoice and be glad!

Tuesday, March 20, 2018

Why does Francis insists so strongly that Islam is peaceful?


“If the world hate you, know ye that it hath hated me before you. If you had been of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.”




After meeting with Talmudic rabbis, Francis most popular guests are imams and Islamicists.  Every time he meets with one of the Moslems he says something along the lines of how peaceful the Moslem ‘religion’ is.  Francis had a private audience with Dr. Yousef bin Ahmed Al-Othaimeen this past Friday.  The statement which has come out is no exception.

The Secretary General of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation Dr. Yousef bin Ahmed Al Othaimeen met with His Holiness Pope Francis at the Vatican today, Friday, 16 March 2018. 
During the meeting both sides emphasized the importance of interfaith dialogue and raising the voice of wisdom and tolerance to combat extremism and terrorism. The Secretary General emphasized to His Holiness that terrorism has no religion, and that OIC condemns all terrorist acts coming from any religion. 
Al Othaimeen presented his thanks to the Pope for his stand on the issue of Al Quds [Jerusalem] and the basic rights of the Muslims and Christians in the holy city. Both sides were in agreement on the cause of Palestine and Al Quds [Jerusalem]. 
Al Othaimeen also appreciated the position of the Pope on many issues such as promoting human rights and migration, expressing his thanks to Pope Francis for his position on the Rohingya Muslims and their rights. The Pope from his side expressed his support to the basic rights of the Rohingya, adding that their suffering has been going on for a long time, and he thanked neighboring countries, specially Bangladesh for hosting them. 
The Pope also appreciated OIC’s position against terrorism, and stressed that there is no link between Islam and terrorism. 
The Secretary General also met with His Eminence the Secretary of State of the Vatican Pietro Parolin. They discussed cooperation and importance of dialogue between both sides and continuous contact. 

‘OIC Secretary General Discusses with Pope Francis Terrorism, Rohingya and Quds Issues’, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, (16 March 2018)


Here we have a representative of the Moslems thanking Francis for his stand on Jerusalem.  Francis said of Jerusalem, “I wish to make a heartfelt appeal to ensure that everyone is committed to respecting the status quo...”  The status quo is the de-Christianization of Jerusalem and Israel.  Why would Francis also stress,“that there is no link between Islam and terrorism”?  The answer is a fairly simple one, Francis serves the machinations of the rabbis — therefore Islam is acceptable since it’s the fulfillment of the Noahide Laws — Christianity is considered Avodah Zarah (idol worship) and worthy of death.   Hence, Moslems are given a free pass and Catholics who profess the Faith are condemned.  Francis’ rabbinical buddies do not want non-Jews to covert to Talmudic Judaism instead the Talmudists want the non-Jews to convert to one of the acceptable forms of servile Noahidism.  So now you know why Franis insists that Islam is peaceful.


“blessed are your eyes, because they see, and your ears, because they hear.”

Tuesday, September 5, 2017

Cardinal Woelki’s theater of absurdity — the plight of the Moslem invader


Like the Talmudic rabbis (#1, #2, #3, #4) and
Francis (#1, #2, #3, #4), Cardinal Woelki is 
hell-bent on destroying Christianity in Europe



Woelki, ‘the Moslem invaders in the boat are really Christ!’



If Francis is ‘the first Moslem’ then,
Cardinal Woelki must be ‘the second Moslem’



The ‘alter-Christi’ coming to ‘culturally enrich’ Europe!

Tuesday, August 29, 2017

Francis’ Angelus messages — the church is in constant need of reform & Moslems are his brothers


“Also with us, today, Jesus wants to continue to build His Church, this house with solid foundations but where cracks are not missing, and it continually needs to be repaired. Always. The Church always needs to be reformed, repaired.”
[...]

“Sad news has reached us regarding the persecution of the religious minority of our Rohingya brothers. I would like to express all my closeness to them, and let us all ask the Lord to save them and to inspire men and women of goodwill to help them, so that they may have their full rights. Let us also pray for our Rohingya brothers.”


And there you have it, Francis saying that his church is in need of constant repair and reform.  This only several days after he announced, “we can affirm with certainty and with magisterial authority that the liturgical reform is irreversible.”  And in the next breathe Francis hails a group of Moslems (Rohingya) as brothers!   It shouldn’t be surprising that Moslems call him Francis ‘the first Moslem’ and ‘pope sheik’.  With Francis unceasing advocation for the illegal Moslem hordes invading Europe where he recently went so far as to state that a country’s national security should take a backseat to these illegal invaders — who should have the welfare systems of these bankrupt countries roll out the red carpet for their conquerors.  What makes Francis act this way?  Why does he hate the Catholic Faith?  Why is he hell-bent on destroying what’s left of Christian Europe?


Monday, August 21, 2017

‘Humble’ Francis the destroyer of Christendom


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The principle of the centrality of the human person, firmly stated by my beloved Predecessor, Benedict XVI, obliges us to always prioritise personal safety over national security. It is necessary, therefore, to ensure that agents in charge of border control are properly trained. The situation of migrants, asylum seekers and refugees requires that they be guaranteed personal safety and access to basic services. For the sake of the fundamental dignity of every human person, we must strive to find alternative solutions to detention for those who enter a country without authorisation.”

Francis’ message for the 104th World Day of Migrants & Refugees 2018, 21 August 2017 — 



Extrapolate this argument towards Francis’ words.

Saturday, July 15, 2017

Vive la république!


As we watched this video we were struck by the resemblance of Paris to one of the better neighborhoods of Tangier, Morocco.


This de-Christianization of Europe is the goal of Israel; the Freemasons; Francis (1) & (2); Putin; and the rabbis (1) & (2).



Description with the video:
Published on Jul 15, 2017
Just stepped outside my apartment, started filming for 45 minutes and didn't stop.

*For those who are confused by the point of this video, the point is that France is changing forever due to mass immigration. The people in this video were not speaking French, the women were not wearing their hair in French Braids, they had their head scarves on. When I was driving from the airport I saw people being fed from volunteer aid vans in the Syrian zones and coming up to your cars with signs in Arabic. The posters on the walls and the protesters yelled refugees welcome. Much of what you are looking at is not legal or proper migration and assimilation. France will not be France for long.*

Chabad Rav, David Touitou, explains it all...

Friday, July 7, 2017

All’s not well in Modernist Rome


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 Il Tempo - Quotidiano Independente, 2 July 2017


The tagline above Francis’ picture reads, “Collapse of the faithful, scandals, ethics, gay, immigrants and ISIS-Islam How many errors. Now the purges. The popularity of Francis of collapses”.  The headline is, “Il Papocchio”, which is a play on words in Italian.  In 1980 a blasphemous film was released with the title ‘Il pap'occhio’ (literally - in the pope’s eye), this headline is an allusion to the film and the fact that even though Francis is popular with the mainstream medias he isn’t very popular among Italians.  The word ‘papocchio’ also translates into English as ‘mess’ being a regional colloquialism of the verb ‘impapocchiare’.  This is fitting as Francis has repeatedly told the youth to “make a mess” with their lives especially in their home dioceses.  After all, the chemist needs chaos in the Novus Ordo church so that he can reprocess it.  In the final stages of this alchemical transformation, chaos will be introduced several times, further refining the Novus Ordo into the Noahide church until the transformation is complete.  In this process, Francis is repeating the same behaviors he exhibited in Buenos Aires, Argentina where he alienated his flock and fellow countrymen with his reign of mistrust and lies.  As we wrote of in his time in Argentina and the people of Italy are coming to realize, Francis “is a man sick with power.”

Saturday, April 22, 2017

Francis says childless Europe is committing suicide by not accepting more Moslem invaders

“It’s true we are a society that doesn’t have children, but we close the doors to migrants. This is called suicide.”





Francis’ words upon exiting the Basilica of St. Bartholomew 
Isola Tiberina, Rome, Italy — Saturday, 22 April 2017 

“Thank you for being here. Thank you for your prayers.  This church of the martyrs this reminded me of the cruelty, the cruelty that so many people have to suffer, the exploitation of people I’m reminded of the people who come here in boats and they are left there (in internment camps), in generous countries like Italy and Greece who receive them but then because of international agreements don't allow them to move on. If Italy was able to welcome two migrants per municipality there would be room for everyone.  And this generosity of the South (of Italy) of Lampedusa, Sicily, Lesvos, if only it could infect a bit the North (of Italy). It’s true we are a society that doesn’t have children, but we close the doors to migrants. This is called suicide.  Let us pray!”




(Francis’ remarks start at 1 hr 38 min 34 sec)



We have a bright idea for Francis...

...why doesn’t he tell Europeans to practice the Faith, get married, not to use birth control, and to have children instead of telling Catholic women to stop reproducing irresponsibly and breeding like rabbits?

Friday, April 7, 2017

‘Pope Sheik’ Francis ‘the first Moslem’ laments the plight of Moslem invaders in newest interview




The English translation of Francis latest interview (28 march 2017) with the Italian journal Libertàcivili (Civil Liberties) was published by America: The Jesuit Review under the title of Read: Pope Francis’ new interview on the struggles of migrants and refugees.  The main focus of the interview is refugees and the new Vatican department which Francis has created to respond to the refugee situation.  The English translation of interview is republished below.

Your Holiness, on July 8, 2013, you made this statement while visiting Lampedusa: “I had to come here to pray,” you said, “to make a gesture of closeness but also to reawaken our consciences.” On April 16, 2016, you repeated this statement in Lesbos, adding your prayers to those of Archbishop Ieronymos of Athens and Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople. How can ecumenical and interreligious dialogue—not only among the three religions of the children of Abraham but also with all the others—contribute to a correct understanding of the problem of migration, with its burden of human suffering, as we look for possible solutions to welcoming those who arrive in Europe? 
The visit to Lesbos and the prayers with Archbishop Ieronymos and Patriarch Bartholomew are a sharing of brotherhood, of closeness to the cries of the many innocents who ask only for a chance to save their own lives. Sharing in brotherhood with other religions appeals to our consciences not to turn our backs on the hopes and calls for help of our brothers and sisters in need.

Migration, if handled with humanity, is an opportunity for everyone to meet and grow. We cannot lose our sense of fraternal responsibility. The defense of human beings knows no barriers: We are all united in wanting to ensure a dignified life for every man, woman and child who is forced to abandon his or her own land. There is no difference of creed that can outweigh this wish—in fact, quite the contrary. 
It is precisely in these contexts that we can be brothers working toward good—the same good—every day. If the same unity were embraced by those who govern different countries, as well, then maybe we could take some more concrete, global steps in support of migrants and refugees. 
The island of Lesbos, like Lampedusa, shows the world the faces of innocent people who flee from wars, violence and persecution. Men, women and children traveling alone arrive tired, exhausted, hoping to save their own lives with dramatic journeys via land and, unfortunately, also via sea. 
In Europe and around the world we are living through a critical moment in the management of migration policies. Those in power must be both far-sighted and coherent in watchful respect for fundamental human rights, as well as trying to end to the causes of forced migration which oblige civilians to flee. 

The directives of your Motu Proprio (Aug. 17, 2016) for the creation of a new social Dicastery for the Promotion of Integral Human Development within the Catholic Church came into effect on January 1. For the social teaching of the church, the dicastery—which takes over the remit of various pastoral councils—is the new organizational destination of a long historical journey. What mission have you entrusted to the new dicastery, with regard to migrants and refugees? 
Yes, I set up the Migrants & Refugees Section of the new Dicastery for the Promotion of Integral Human Development with a start date of Jan 1. 2017. 
The multitude of migrants, refugees, displaced people and victims of human trafficking requires particular care. This is why I decided to take care of them personally, at least for a while, and why the section reports to me directly. 
The section’s main mission is supporting the church and its leaders—at the local, regional and international levels—to accompany people through each step of the migration process, with particular attention to those who are forced in different ways to move or flee, or who experience disadvantage and suffering in countries of origin, transit or destination. 
I am thinking of all those who flee from conflicts, persecutions or humanitarian emergencies, whether natural or caused by human intervention. I am thinking about victims of human trafficking, about undocumented migrants, about migrant workers in exploitative situations and about women, young people and children migrating in situations of vulnerability.

By their very nature, migrations are phenomena that cut across the borders of individual nations and even continents. In this sense, considering demographic projections for the coming decades, there is talk of a Eurafrican continent—momentous transitions, which call into question cultural identities, values and historical baggage. Different national policies must be tied together with international cooperation: This is a necessity you often mention. Having received much, Europe must learn to give. How do we make the move from awareness to action? 
Undoubtedly international cooperation is needed in the management of migration policies, which must be respectful both toward those who welcome and toward those who are welcomed. 
Like many other countries that have experienced both immigration and emigration, I think European nations must learn from their past. How difficult things were, in the post-war era, for millions of Europeans who took off, often with their entire families, and crossed the ocean to arrive in South America or the United States! 
It was not an easy experience for them, either. They suffered the weight of being seen as foreigners, arriving from afar with no knowledge of the local language. It was not an easy process of integration, but it always ended in success! 
Therefore, it is important to be aware of the contributions migrants make to their countries of arrival. Europeans contributed greatly to the growth of transatlantic societies. It is the same story. Any exchange of culture and knowledge is a source of wealth and should be valued as such. As I said on November 1, on the way back from my trip to Sweden, we must not be scared, because Europe was formed from a continuous integration of cultures—of many cultures.

If we can view migrants as an added value to our society, then we will be able to practice real welcome and to give what we have received in the past. We have a lot to learn from the past. It is important to act with awareness, without feeding the fear of foreigners. 
On Feb. 21, I explained to participants at the Forum on Migration & Peace that we must promote welcome and hospitality toward refugees and displaced people, supporting their integration and bearing in mind the mutual rights and responsibilities of those who welcome and those who are welcomed. Integration—which is neither assimilation nor incorporation—is a two-way process, essentially based on mutual recognition of another person’s cultural wealth. It is not the flattening of one culture against another, and neither is it mutual isolation, which carries the dangerous, or even deadly, risk of ghettoization. As for those who arrive—who are responsible for not shutting themselves off from the culture and traditions of their host country and for respecting its laws first and foremost—we absolutely must not neglect the familial aspects of integration. Hence why I feel I have to keep reiterating the need for policies which favor and prioritize family reunification. 
As far as indigenous people are concerned, they must be helped: They need to be appropriately sensitized and supported to be positively predisposed towards the process of integration, which is not always simple or immediate but is always essential and indispensable for the future. This is why we also need specific programs favoring meaningful encounters with new arrivals. 
As for the Christian community, the peaceful integration of people from different cultures is, in some way, a reflection of its Catholicism: a unity which does not override ethnic or cultural diversity constitutes a dimension of church life, which in the Pentecostal spirit is open to all— open to embracing everyone.

On Sept. 22, 2016, during an audience with a delegation of Italian journalists, you called for the development of a true culture of encounter. There is no difficulty, you said, which men of good will cannot overcome. In 1991 the Caritas director in Rome, Msgr. Luigi di Liegro, inaugurated an annual dossier of immigration statistics because, he said, real information on dynamics of migration is the only thing that can defeat all the existing prejudice, clichés and closure. For the sake of truth, how do we keep this debate alive in the context of modern-day communications, so extraordinarily amplified by new media? 
Mass media should feel obligated to explain the different aspects of migration, schooling public opinion on the causes of this phenomenon. Human rights violations, violent conflicts of social disorder, lack of essential goods, natural catastrophes and catastrophes caused by humans: All these things should be clearly explained in order to support a real understanding of the migration phenomenon and, consequently, a correct approach. 
Often, mass media themselves use negative stereotypes when talking about migrants and refugees. Just think of the unfair use that is often made of terms to describe migrants and refugees. How often do we hear people talk of “illegals” as a synonym for migrants?
This is unfair: It is information based on the wrong premise, which pushes public opinion to develop negative judgments. 
Not to mention, of course, the sensationalism favored by most modern-day media. A bad news story has more impact than a good news story, and so it is more profitable to talk about a few crime cases involving migrants than to tell the many stories of integration promoted by migrants themselves. 
Better information could break down the barriers of fear and indifference. The other, the different, is scary when it is unknown. But if we talk about it, and introduce it to people’s homes via images and stories, presented in its most positive, human aspects, then knowledge goes beyond stereotypes and the encounter becomes authentic. And when we get past fear, doors are opened, and welcome is spontaneous.

As I said to E.U. heads of state and government on the 60th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Rome, openness towards the world requires a capacity for dialogue as the basis of encounters on all levels—from dialogue between member states, and between institutions and citizens, to dialogue with the many migrants who arrive on E.U. shores. We cannot simply manage the major migration crisis of our times as if it were just a problem of numbers, economy or security. The issue of migration poses a deeper question, which is cultural first and foremost.

Adding value to Europe!

Wednesday, April 5, 2017

Imam Bergoglio meets with four of Britain’s imams


“Pope Sheik” told the British imams to keep talking and listening to the Christians to bring about ‘peace’.  It is through alchemic dialogue that the Catholic Faith will be further watered-down until it becomes 100% noahide approved like Islam.


The four imams Francis met with were:
  • Moulana Ali Raza Rizvi, president of Majlis e ulama Europe; 
  • Moulana Muhammad Shahid Raza, chairman of the British Muslim Forum, Great Britain; 
  • Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, co-chair of the Christian-Muslim Forum; 
  • Moulana Sayed Ali Abbas Razawi, director general of the Scottish Ahlul Bayt Society.


Here is the official greeting or advice Francis gave them:
“I welcome you with joy. I like to think that the most important task we must do together, in humanity, is the work “of the ear”: listening to each other. Listening to each other, without haste to give an answer. Welcoming the word of our brother, our sister, and then thinking of giving my own. But the capacity to listen, this is very important. It is interesting: when people have this capacity for listening, they speak with a low and calm tone. … Instead, when they do not have this, they speak loudly and even shout. Among brothers, we must all speak, listen to each other and speak slowly, calmly, looking for the way together. And when we listen to each other and speak to each other, we are already on the path.
Thank you for this journey you are taking, and I ask God, almighty and merciful, to bless you. And I ask you to pray for me.
Thank you very much.”

Francis “the first Moslem” meets with imams




Related:


      “Nay, today is the day of mercy and forgiveness. Today will Allah
      honour the Quraysh, and raise glory of the Sanctuary.” — Mohamed


    two of the imams chime in

    Tuesday, April 4, 2017

    The Pope Video — Season 2 Episode 4


    Francis serves up more of his modernist dross in his latest prayer video.  The video starts off with a woman immodestly dressed and working out — lifting a gigantic tire.  Next we see her pack her bags and walk off while still immodestly dressed in jeans so that she can be ‘an agent of change’.  What type of ‘change’ does this social justice warrior perform?  She’s volunteering to assist and welcome the invading hordes of Moslems into Europe!  The better world the female protagonist of the video is helping to create is one that isn’t Catholic, instead it’s the noahide approved religion of Islam.  We at Call Me Jorge... are guessing this childless woman has pets at home she pampers as if they are her children.  Soon feminist do-gooders such as herself will be wearing burkas and if they do have a child in the future, we bet it will named: Mohamed, Abdul, Sa’id, Fatima, Bushrah, Madia, etc... and will pray while kneeling towards Mecca.


    Francis’ latest video visually encourages the youth to destroy what’s left of Christian Europe in the name of building a better world!

    Wednesday, March 1, 2017

    another interview with Francis




    One hopes, or at least we at Call Me Jorge... hope that Francis gives up all forms of public speaking for Lent — homilies, interviews, off the cuff remarks, speeches, addresses, etc...  This will likely stay simply a wish.  Just before Lent began, Francis found time to fit in one more interview which was not about the Faith, nor about Lent, or Our Lord’s Passion but about his ‘humble’ self, the homeless, and the plight of the Moslem invaders living in Europe. The interview was conducted on 16 February 2017 in the Vatican by Stefano Lampertico the director of Scarp de’ tenis (Tennis Shoes), the magazine which some homeless sell in Milan, Italy.  Scarp de’ tenis is a monthly magazine conceived of and supported by Caritas Ambrosiana and Caritas Italiana in the diocese of Milan. 


    Get the latest interview of Francis in Milan from people dressed in red bibs.

    (Circa 2012) Hassad a homeless Moroccan and Robert a gypsy from Romania/Hungary sell Scarp de’ Tenis in Milan, Italy.  This is back when illegal immigrants had jobs in Italy and before the State put them on the dole.  Hopefully by now Hassad and Robert have assimilated to life in Italy or better yet, returned home.


    Francis with Stefano Lampertico and Antonio Lampertico Mininni 
    in Casa Santa Marta being interviewed for Scarp de’ tenis.


    The interview Francis gave was titled “Mettiamoci Nelle Scarpe Degli Altri” (Let’s place ourselves in the shoes of others).  It consists of ten questions posed to Francis and his answers.  It is filled with the usual gospel according to Francis the ‘humble’ which consists of a claptrap of naturalistic and modernist garbage.  Among the lowlights:
    • When giving alms to the poor you need to touch their hands and look them in the eye,
    • Among Francis’ answers one gets the sense that he is trying to recreate in the world the native Argentina of past, where he grew up around immigrants or the children of immigrants which  shaped his faith experience profoundly,
    • It’s a quirk of fate that Francis was even born as his parents were to be on a ship which sank,
    • The poor can change the world, as they are more raw and honest as well as show more solidarity than the rest of the human race, 
    • Children know better than their parents do about feeding the homeless, and
    • Francis expects to see many people during his upcoming trip to Milan.

    We reiterate what we wrote above, Francis doesn’t mention saving souls or anything really pertaining to the spiritual element of Christianity.  He only touches corporal works of mercy and he doesn’t do a good job of even covering that properly from a Catholic perspective.  Examining one of Francis’ answers we see how idiotic it is.  Francis tells a story of children who befriend homeless people and bring them into the home to feed them when their parents are out.  The sense one gets when reading Francis’ answer is that these children are wiser than their parents.  This is a dangerous answer which Francis gives for several reasons.  Who are these homeless?  Criminals?  People who should be in mental institutions?  Child rapists?  Drug addicts?  Moslem invaders?  People down on their luck?  The answer to this is important but not to Francis.  Don’t parents have an obligation to protect and raise their children, often making decisions for them which are for their good even though they may not like them?  Instead, Francis sells his modernist program of trash and destruction on emotion.  The interview is filled with all sorts of prescriptions which only make one more sick and the disease worse than before.  How much longer until everyone sees that Francis is the emperor with no clothes?


    The last time Scarp de’ tenis printed an interview with Francis it was conducted by the Dutch homeless newspaper, Straatnieuws. and published in several other magazines also sold by the homeless.  Francis said that he wanted “a world without poor” and his childhood dream was to become, “a butcher”.  Christ told us “the poor you have always with you” (Matthew 26,11) and Francis is certainly making mincemeat out of Catholic Tradition.

    Thursday, February 2, 2017

    The Pope Video — Season 2 Episode 2


    The newest piece of propaganda released by the Vatican today is brazen statement of the new world order when one looks at what it is implying. Titled, Welcome the needy, the video starts with the latest video fad, the ‘mannequin challenge’— in which all the actors are frozen as if suspended in time — until it focuses on a white European male who is sitting up against the wall of a building with his few possessions, shaking due to the cold weather. The voice of Francis says, “The result of this situation is that great sections of the population are excluded and marginalized: without a job, without options, without a way out” as this freezing man is shown. From this we assume he in homeless and unemployed. Next we sees the hapless white European male being helped by three people two of whom appear to be from Africa. It’s not a stretch to imagine these blacks from Africa are Moslem. The video speaks to the viewer on several levels.

    The first is that Europe and the countries of the world are multicultural which could become utopias, if we would help each other out.

    The second message is that black Moslems from North Africa are more compassionate than Europeans and everything would be great if only the white European looked to the wise compassionate African for help.

    Thirdly, is the reality of the situation in Europe and much of the world which is 180 degrees opposite of what the video portrays.  We will only focus on Europe.  The economy is in dire straits due to the Christians in Europe not reproducing.  This has led to many including Francis to call for an increase in immigration.  They don’t care what the religion, morals, or beliefs of these new immigrants are as long as they come to Europe.  The powers that be don’t even care if these new immigrants follow the laws of the countries they arrive in, as to hold them to the laws wouldn’t be compassionate and would be offensive.  These new immigrants (Moslem invaders) go onto the dole (to the tune of 99.8%) and get preference from the government over the natives who often get their government assistance cut to nothing.  So many new immigrants have arrived that it has financially stressed the countries they have arrived in as well as the infrastructure.  These governments then raise the taxes on companies and citizens in their countries which leads to more unemployed and destitute, who now receive zilch from the government because they are not designated with the politically correct moniker of refugees/financial immigrants.

    Francis the ‘liberal’ clown sits at his desk with his remedy for Europe, “Pray with me for those who are weighed down, especially the poor, refugees and marginalized, that they might find welcome and support in our communities.”  The only thing which will result from Francis’ actions will be the speeding up of the process of the de-Christianization of Europe as it is turned into a hodge podge of pagan religions and noahidism. A better prayer would be that Europe rediscovers the Faith which made it great and begins to practice it once again.


    Saturday, January 21, 2017

    While Donald Trump was taking the oath of office the rest of the world was being prepared to be subjected to one hour and fifteen minutes of this insanity!


    Francis interview #666,000,000


    Unfortunately, Francis mind isn’t empty like his hands, instead it’s filled with garbage.


    Apparently Francis couldn’t bear the idea of Donald Trump stealing the limelight of the world for even one day, hence the motormouth gave a ranging interview which covers almost, but not quite, every inconsequential idea of his revolutionary mind.  This interview published in the Spanish newspaper, El País, is linked to below in the Spanish, Portuguese, and English languages.


    It’s filled with the usual politically correct platitudes and pet-causes of Francis in the typical manner of Francis’ rambling stream of unconsciousness.  One thing which can be said about Francis is that he has taken away the title of the most garrulous papacy from Karol Józef Wojtyła, for he shares every idea he has no matter how mundane or incorrect it is.  Reality is a realm which Francis seldom occupies and this interview reflects it.  So, here’s more verbal drivel from the mouth of the imbecile himself, if the reader can stomach it.


    “The danger is that in times of crisis we look for a savior”
    On Donald Trump, Pope Francis says: “I don’t like to aniticpate events. Let us see what he does, we can’t be prophets of disasters”
    Interview conducted by Antonio Caño & Pablo Ordaz

    On Friday, just when Donald Trump was being sworn in to office in Washington, Pope Francis was giving a long interview to EL PAÍS at the Vatican, during which he was calling for prudence in the face of the alarm bells that were ringing due to the new US president.
    During an hour and 15 minutes, in a simple room in the Casa de Santa Marta, where he lives, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who was born in Buenos Aires 80 years ago and is on his way to completing his fourth year as Pontiff, explained that “in the Church there are saints and sinners, decent men and corrupt men,” but that what most worries him is “a Church that has been anesthetized by mundanity,” one that is far from the problems of the people.
    Francis showed himself to be up to speed not just with what is happening within the Vatican, but also in the southern border of Spain or in the tough neighborhoods of Rome. He says that he would love to travel to China – “as soon as they invite me” – and that, although he sometimes “slips up,” his only revolution is the Evangelical one.
    The drama of the refugee crisis has affected him greatly - “that man cried and cried on my shoulder, with the life-jacket in his hand, because he hadn't managed to rescue a four-year-old girl” – as much as the visits he has made to women who were sold into slavery by prostitution mafias in Italy. He still does not know whether he will die as pope or will opt for the open road of Benedicto XVI. He admits that sometimes he has felt used by his Argentinean countrymen, and he calls on Spaniards to do something that looks easy but is not: “Talk to one another.”
    Question: Your Holiness, after nearly four years in the Vatican, what is left of that street priest that came from Buenos Aires to Rome with the return ticket in his pocket?
    Francis: He is still a street priest. Because, as soon as I can go out on the streets to greet people at the general audiences, or when I am traveling... my character has not changed. I'm not saying that is deliberate: it has been a natural thing. It is not true that you have to change here. To change is unnatural. To change at 76 is putting on makeup. Perhaps I cannot do everything I want, but my street soul is alive, and you can see it.
    Question: In the last days of his papacy, Benedict XVI said about his last years at the head of the Catholic Church: "The waters ran troubled and God seemed asleep". Have you felt that loneliness too? The Church hierarchy was asleep with regard to people's problems, both new and old?
    Francis: Within the Church hierarchy, or among the Catholic Church's pastoral agents (bishops, priests, nuns, laymen), I am more afraid, rather than of those who are asleep, of those who are anesthetized. Those who are anesthetized by worldly affairs. They sell out to worldliness. That is what worries me. Everything is calm, everything is quiet, when everything goes right. Too much order. When you read the Acts of the Apostles, Saint Paul's epistles, it was a mess, there were troubles, people moved. There was movement and contact with people. An anesthetized person is not in touch with people. He protects himself against reality. He is anesthetized. Nowadays there are so many ways of anesthetizing oneself against the daily life, aren't there? Maybe the most dangerous illness for a pastor is the one produced by anesthetics, which is clericalism. I am here and the people are there. But you are those people's pastor! If you don't take care of those people, if you give up on taking care of those people, you should pack your bags and retire.
    Question: Is there a part of the Catholic Church that is anesthetized?
    Francis: It is a risk that we all have. It is a danger, it is seriously tempting. Being anesthetized is easier.
    Question: It is a better life, a more comfortable life.
    Francis: That is why, rather than those asleep, there is that anesthetized state that gives the worldly spirit. A spiritual worldly spirit. I am always struck by the fact that Jesus Christ, in his last supper, when he prays to his Father on behalf of his disciples, he does not ask "Look, keep from breaking the fifth commandment, keep them from killing, from breaking the seventh commandment, keep them from stealing". No, he says: "Keep them from the evils of the world, keep them from the world". The worldly spirit anesthetizes. When that happens, the pastor becomes a civil servant. And that is clericalism, which is the worst evil that may afflict today's Church.
    Question: The troubles that Benedict XVI faced towards the end of his papacy and that were inside that white box that he gave you in Castel Gandolfo, what are they?
    Francis: A very normal sample of daily life within the Church: saints and sinners, honest people and crooked people. Everything was there! There were people who had been questioned and were clean, workers... Because here, in the Curia, there are true saints. I like to say it. We talk too easily about the level of corruption in the Curia. And there are corrupt people. But there are also many saints. Men that have spent all their life serving people anonymously, behind a desk, or in conversation, or in a study, to get... Herein there are saints and sinners. That day, what most struck me was holy Benedict's memory. He said: "Look, here are the proceedings, in the box". An envelope twice this one. "Here is the sentencing of all the individuals". And here, "So-and-so, that much". He remembered everything! An extraordinary memory. And he retains it.
    Question: Does he feel alright, health-wise?
    Francis: Upwards, he feels fine. His problem are the legs. He needs help to walk. He has an elephant's memory, even in nuances. I may say something and he goes: "No, it wasn't that year, it was that other year".
    Question: What are your main concerns with regard to the Church and the world in general?
    Francis: With regard to the Church, I would say that I hope that it never stops being close. Close to the people. Proximity. A Church that is not close is not a Church. It's a good NGO. Or a good and pious organization made up of good people that does good, meets for tea and work in charity... The hallmark of the Church is its proximity, being close siblings. We all are the Church. Therefore, the problem we should avoid is breaking that closeness. Closeness among everyone. Being close is touching, touching Christ in flesh and blood through your neighbor.
    Question: Does he feel alright, health-wise?
    Francis: Upwards, he feels fine. His problem are the legs. He needs help to walk. He has an elephant's memory, even in nuances. I may say something and he goes: "No, it wasn't that year, it was that other year".
    Question: What are your main concerns with regard to the Church and the world in general?
    Francis: With regard to the Church, I would say that I hope that it never stops being close. Close to the people. Proximity. A Church that is not close is not a Church. It's a good NGO. Or a good and pious organization made up of good people that does good, meets for tea and work in charity... The hallmark of the Church is its proximity, being close siblings. We all are the Church. Therefore, the problem we should avoid is breaking that closeness. Closeness among everyone. Being close is touching, touching Christ in flesh and blood through your neighbor.
    When Jesus tells us how are we going to be judged, Matthew chapter 25, he always talks about reaching to your neighbor: I was hungry, I was in prison, I was sick... Always being close to the needs of your neighbor. Which is not just charity. It is much more.
    Also, in the world, there is war. We have a World War III in little bits. Lately there is talk of a possible nuclear war as if it were a card game: they are playing cards. That is my biggest concern. I am worried about the economic inequalities in the world: the fact that a small group of humans has over 80% of the world's wealth, with all its implications for the liquid economy, which at its center has money as a god, instead of the human being. Hence the throwaway culture.
    Question: Your Holiness, about the world's problems that you have just mentioned, Donald Trump has just become the president of the US, and the whole world is tense because of it. What do you think about that?
    Francis: I think that we must wait and see. I don't like to get ahead of myself nor judge people prematurely. We will see how he acts, what he does, and then I will have an opinion. But being afraid or rejoicing beforehand because of something that might happen is, in my view, quite unwise. It would be like prophets predicting calamities or windfalls that will not be either. We will see. We will see what he does and will judge. Always on the specific. Christianity, either is specific or it is not Christianity.
    It is interesting that the first heresy in the Church took place just after the death of Jesus Christ. The gnostic heresy, condemned by the apostle John. Which was what I call a spray religiousness, a non-specific religiousness. Yes, me, spirituality, the law... but nothing concrete. No, no way. We need specifics. And from the specific we can draw consequences. We lose sense of the concrete. The other day, a thinker was telling me that this world is so upside down that it needs a fixed point. And those fixed points stem from the concrete. What did you do, what did you decide, how do you move. That is what I prefer to wait and see.
    Question: Aren't you worried about the things we have heard up until now?
    Francis: I'm waiting. God waited so long for me, with all my sins...
    Question: For the most traditionalist sectors, any change, even if it is only in the language, amounts to treachery. For the other end, nothing is ever enough. You have said that everything was already written in the Gospel's essence. Is it then a revolution of normalcy?
    Francis: I try —I don't know if I succeed— to do what the Gospel says. That is what I try. I am a sinner and not always successful, but that is what I try. The history of the Church has not been driven by theologians, or priests, or nuns, or bishops... Maybe in part, but the true heroes of the Church are the saints. That is, those men and women that devoted their lives to make the Gospel a reality. Those are the ones that have saved us: the saints. We sometimes think that a saint is a nun that looks up to the heaven and rolls her eyes. The saints are the specific examples of the Gospel in daily life! And the theology that you learn from a saint's life is immense. There is no doubt that the theologians and the pastors are necessary. They are part of the Church. But we must come back to that: the Gospel. And who are the best messengers of the Gospel? The saints.
    You have used the word "revolution". That is a revolution! I am not a saint. I am not making any revolution. I am just trying to push the Gospel forward. In an imperfect way, because I make my blunders from time to time.
    Question: Don't you think that many Catholics may feel something like the syndrome of the prodigal son's sibling, who thinks that you are more focused to those who left than to those who remained and obey the Church's commandments? I remember than in one of your trips, a German journalist asked you why did you never talk about the middle class, those who pay their taxes...
    Francis: There are two questions in there. The syndrome of the eldest child: I know that those who feel comfortable within a Church structure that doesn't ask too much of them or who have attitudes that protect them from too much contact are going to feel uneasy with any change, with any proposal coming from the Gospel. I like to think about the owner of the hotel where the Samaritan took the man beaten and robbed by thieves along the way. The owner knew the story, the Samaritan had told him: a priest had passed by, he looked the time, saw that he was late for temple and left the man abandoned, he didn't want to get blood-stained because that would prevent him from celebrating according to the law. A lawyer passed by, he looked and said: "I better not get involved, it will make me late, tomorrow in court I will testify and... No, it's better not to get involved". As if he had been born in Buenos Aires, he turned around, with that city's slogan: "Better not get involved". And then came this one that was not Jewish, he was a pagan, he was a sinner, he was deemed the scum, and he was moved and he helped him get up. The owner's astonishment was tremendous, because it was unusual.
    The novelty of the Gospel however astonishes because it is essentially scandalous. Saint Paul tells us about the scandal of the cross, the scandal of the Son of God become man. A good scandal, because Jesus condemns the outrage against children too. But the evangelical essence is scandalous by those days criteria. By any worldly criteria, it is an outrageous essence. So the eldest child syndrome is the syndrome of anyone who is too settled within the Church, the one who has everything clear, knows what must be done and doesn't want anyone to listen to strange sermons. That is the explanation for our martyrs: they gave their lives for preaching something that was upsetting.
    That is your first question. As for the second one: I didn't want to answer the German journalist right there, but I told him: I am going to think about it, you may be somewhat right... I am always talking about the middle class, even without mentioning it. I use a term coined by the French novelist Malègue, who talks about "the middle class of sanctity". I am always talking about parents, grandparents, nurses, the people who live to serve others, who raise their kids, who work... Those people are tremendously saint! And they are also the ones who carry the Church onward: the ones that earn their living with dignity, that raise their children, that bury their dead, that care for their elders, instead of putting them into an old people's home, that is our saintly middle class.
    From an economic point of view, today, the middle class tends to vanish more and more, and there is the risk that we take shelter in our ideological caverns. But this "middle class of sanctity": the father, the mother, who celebrate their family, with their sins and their virtues, the grandfather, the grandmother. The family. At the center. That is "the middle class of sanctity". That was a great insight on the part of Malègue, who writes a sentence that is really impressing. In one of his novels, Augustine, an atheist asks him: "But you believe that Jesus Christ is God?" He is presenting the problem: Do you think that the Nazarene is God? "For me, it is not a problem", is the protagonist's answer, "the problem would have been if God didn't become Christ". That is "the middle class of sanctity".
    Question: Your Holiness, you have mentioned the ideological caverns. What do you mean by that? What are your concerns in this regard?
    Francis: It is not a concern. I am stating the facts. One is always more at ease in the ideological system that he has built, because it is abstract.
    Question: Has it been exacerbated in recent years?
    Francis: It has always existed. I would not say it has been exacerbated, because there has also been much disappointment. I think there was more in the period before World War II. I think. I haven't given it much thought. I am putting things together... In the restaurant of life you always get many ideological dishes. Always. You may always take refuge in that. They are shelters that prevent you from connecting with reality.
    Question: Holy Father, these years, during your trips, I have seen you get emotional and move many who listened to you... For instance, I remember three very special occasions: in Lampedusa, when you asked whether we had cried with the women who lose their children to the sea; in Sardinia, when you spoke about unemployment and the victims of the global financial system; in the Philippines, with the tragedy of the exploited children. My questions: What can the Church do about it, what is being done, and what are governments doing?
    Francis: The symbol I proposed for the new Migrations office —in the new structure, I took directly over the department of Migrations and Refugees, with two secretaries— is an orange life jacket, such as the ones we know. During a general audience, there was a group of people working to rescue refugees in the Mediterranean. I was passing through, greeting people, and a man had that thing in his hand and started to cry, on my shoulder, and he went on and on: "I couldn't, I didn't get to her, I couldn't". And when he calmed a little he told me: "She wasn't over four years old, the kid. And she went down. I am giving this to you". This a symbol of the tragedy that we are living. Yes.
    Question: Are the governments raising to the occasion?
    Francis: Every one does what they can or what they want. It is a very hard judgment. Undoubtedly, the fact that the Mediterranean has become such a graveyard is food for thought.
    Question: I would like to know if you feel that your message, your approach to the margins, to those who suffer and are lost, is welcome, is accompanied by a machine perhaps used to a very different pace. Do you feel that you and the Church go at a different pace? Do you feel protected?
    Francis: I think that, fortunately, the responses are generally good. Very good. When I asked the parishes and the schools in Rome to take in immigrants, many said that it had been a failure. It is not true! It was not a failure at all! A high percentage of Rome's parishes, when they didn't have a big house or they had a very little one, they had their parishioners rent an apartment for an immigrant family. In convent schools, whenever there was room, they welcomed an immigrant family... The answer is that we have done more than you know, we haven't advertised it. The Vatican has two parishes and each parish has an immigrant family. An apartment at the Vatican for one family, another for the other one. The response has been constant. Not a 100%. I don't know the proportion. I think maybe 50%.
    Then there is the problem of integration. Each immigrant constitutes a very serious problem. They are fleeing their country, because of hunger or because of the war. And the solution must be there. They are exploited. Take Africa: Africa is the symbol of exploitation. Even when giving their independence, in some countries, they are independent and the owners of their land on the surface, but not underground. So they are always used and abused...
    The reception policy has several phases. There is an emergency reception: you have to welcome them, because otherwise they drown. Italy and Greece have led by example. Even now, Italy, with all the problems caused by the earthquake and all that, still cares for them. They welcome them. They get to Italy because it is the nearest shore, of course. I think they also get to Spain through Ceuta. But rather than staying in Spain, most of them tend to go north, in search of better opportunities.
    Question: But in Spain there is a fence in Ceuta and Melilla, they cannot go through.
    Francis: Yes, I know. And they want to go north. So the problem is: welcome them, yes, for a couple of months, give them accommodations. But the integration process must start at some point. Receive and integrate. The model for all the world is Sweden. Sweden has nine million people. Of those, 890,000 are "new Swedes", children of immigrants or immigrants with Swedish citizenship. The Foreign minister —I think it was her, the one who came to send me off— is a young woman, the daughter of a Swedish mother and a father from Gabon. Immigrants. Integrated. The problem is integration. On the other hand, when there is not integration, they get "ghettoized", and I am not blaming anyone, but it is a fact that there are ghettos. It may be that they didn't realize at that time. But the young guys who committed the atrocity in Zaventem [airport] were Belgian, they were born in Belgium. However, they lived in an immigrant neighborhood, a closed neighborhood. So the second phase is the key: integration. So much so that, what is the big problem for Sweden now? It isn't that they don't want any more immigrants to come, no! They can't get enough of the integration programs! They wonder what else can they do to get more people to come" It is astonishing. It is an example for the whole world. And it is nothing new. I said it right from the start, after Lampedusa... I knew of Sweden because of all the Argentinians, Uruguayans, Chileans that went there in the era of the military dictatorships and were welcomed there, I have friends who took refuge there and live there. You get to Sweden and they give you a healthcare program, and documents, and a residence permit... And then you have a home, and the following week you have a school to learn the language, and a little bit of work, and you are on your way.
    In that respect, Sant'Egidio, in Italy, is another model. The people who came with me on the plane from Lesbos, and nine others who came afterwards. The Vatican is in charge of 22, and we are taking care of them, and they are slowly becoming independent. The second day, the kids were going to school. The second day! And the parents are getting gradually settled, in an apartment, with a bit of work here, a bit of work there... Instructors to teach them the language... Sant'Egidio has that same attitude. So, the problem is: urgent rescue, of course, for everyone. Second: receive, welcome as best as possible. Afterwards, integrate.
    Question: Your Holiness, half a century has passed since almost everything happened. The Second Vatican Council, Paul VI's trip to the Holy Land and his embrace with Patriarch Athenagoras. Some people say that in order to know you one must know Paul VI. He was to a point the unappreciated Pope. Do you feel also that way, an uncomfortable Pope?
    Francis: No, no. I think that I should be more unrecognized because of my sins. Paul VI was the unappreciated martyr. (...) Evangelii gadium, which frames the pastoral principles that I want for the Church, is an update of Paul VI's Evangelii Nuntiandi. He is a man who was ahead of history. And he suffered a lot. He was a martyr. There were many things that he wasn't able to do, he was a realistic person and he knew that he wasn't able and he suffered for it, but he offered his suffering. He did what he could. And the best thing that he did was planting the seeds. The seeds of things that history collected afterwards. Evangeli Gadium is a mix of Evangeli Nuntiandi and the Aparecida document. Things that developed from the bottom. Evangeli Nuntiandi is the best pastoral paper after the Council, and it still is current. I don't feel unrecognized. I feel accompanied by all kinds of people, young people, old people... There are some who don't agree, of course, and they have the right, because, if I felt bad because someone disagrees with me, I would have the germ of a dictator in me. They have the right to disagree. They have the right to think that the path is dangerous, that the outcome may be bad, they have the right. But provided they talk, that they don't hide behind others. Nobody has the right to do that. Hiding behind others is inhumane, it is a crime. Everyone has the right to debate, and I wish we all would debate more, because it creates a smoother connection between us. Debating unites us. A debate in good faith, not with slander nor things like that.
    Question: You don't feel uncomfortable even with power?
    Francis: But I don't have the power. The power is something shared. The power exists when we make decisions that have been meditated, talked about, prayed, prayer helps me very much, it is a great support for me. I don't feel uncomfortable with power. I feel uneasy with certain protocols, but that is because I come from the streets.
    Question: You haven't watched TV for 25 years now, and I hear that you never were very fond of journalists, But you have reinvented the whole communication system of the Vatican, you have made it professional and have made it into a dicastery. Are media that important for the Pope? Is there a threat against the freedom of the press? Can social media be detrimental for the freedom of the individual?
    Francis: I don't watch television. I simply felt that God was asking that of me, July 16, 1990, I made that promise, and I don't miss it. I only went to the television center that was next to the archbishopric to watch a couple of films that I was interested in, that I thought appropriate for my message. I used to love the movies, I had studied a lot about cinema, most of all the Italian cinema of the postwar period, Italian realism, and the Polish director Wajda, and Kurosawa, and several French directors. But not watching TV didn't prevent me from communicating. Not watching TV was a personal decision, nothing more. Communication comes from God. God communicates. God has communicated with us throughout history. God doesn't exist isolated. God communicates, and has spoken, and has accompanied us, and has challenged us, and has made us change course, and he is still with us. You cannot understand Catholic theology without God's communication. God is not static up there, watching how people have fun or ruin themselves. God gets involved, through the word and through his flesh. And that is my starting point. I feel a little afraid when mass media don't express themselves with an ethos of their own. For instance, there are ways of communicating that, instead of helping, weaken unity. A simple case. A family that is having dinner without conversation, because they are watching TV or the kids are with their phones, texting people that are somewhere else. When communication loses the flesh, the human element, and becomes liquid, is dangerous. It is very important for families to communicate, for people to communicate, and also in the other way. Virtual communication is very rich, but there is a risk if it is lacking human, normal, touching communication. The concrete element of communication is what will make the virtual element take the right course. As we see, the specific is non-negotiable, in everything. We are no angels, we are concrete individuals. Communication is key and must go forward. There are risks, as in everything. We must make adjustments. But communication comes from God. There are deficiencies. I have spoken about the sins of communication in a lecture I gave in ADEPA, in Buenos Aires, the association that bring together Argentinian publishers. The chairmen invited me to a dinner in which I gave this lecture. I signaled the sins of communication and said: don't commit them, because you have a great treasure in your hands. Today, communicating is divine, it always was, because God communicates, and is human, because God communicated in a Human way. So, for functional purposes, there is a dicastery, to channel all this. But it is a functional thing. It isn't because communicating is important today. Communication is essential to the human being, because it is essential to God.
    Question: The Vatican's diplomatic machine works at full capacity. Both Barack Obama and Raúl Castro thanked it publicly for its work during their rapprochement. However, there are other cases such as Venezuela, Colombia or Middle East, that remain blocked. In the first case, the parties even criticize the Vatican's mediation. Do you fear that the Vatican's image may suffer for it? What are your instructions in these cases?
    Francis: I ask the Lord that he give me the grace of not taking any measure for the sake of image. Honesty, service, those are the criteria. I don't think that getting a bit of makeup is a good idea. You make mistakes sometimes, your image will suffer, but it doesn't matter if there was goodwill. History will judge afterwards. And there is a principle, a very clear one for me, that must govern everything both in pastoral action and in Vatican diplomacy: we are mediators, rather than intermediaries. We build bridges, not walls. What is the difference between a mediator and an intermediary? The intermediary is the one that has for instance a real estate business, looks for someone who wants to sell a house and for someone who wants to buy one, the reach an agreement, he gets a commission, rends a good service, but he always gets something out of it, and rightly so, because it is his job. The mediator is the one who wants to serve both parties and wants both parties to win even if he loses. Vatican diplomacy must be a mediator, not an intermediary. If, throughout history, it has sometimes maneuvered or managed a meeting that filled its pockets, that was a very serious sin. The mediator builds bridges that are not for him, but rather for others to cross. walk on them. And he doesn't charge a fee. He builds the bridge and then he leaves. That is for me the image of Vatican diplomacy. Mediators, rather than intermediaries. Bridge builders.
    Question: Will that Vatican diplomacy extend soon to China?
    Francis: In fact, there is a committee that has been working for years with China, they meet every three months, once here and once in Beijing. There are many talks with China. China has always that aura of mystery that is fascinating. Two or three months ago they had the exhibition of pieces from the Vatican Museums in Beijing, and they were very happy about it. And next year they will come to the Vatican with their exhibits.
    Question: And will you go soon to China?
    Francis: As soon as they invite me. They know that. Besides, in China, churches are crowded. In China they can worship freely.
    Question: Both in Europe and in America, the repercussions of the crisis that never ends, the growing inequalities, the absence of strong leadership are giving way to political groups that reflect on the citizens' malaise. Some of them —the so-called anti-system or populists— capitalize on the fears in face of an uncertain future in order to form a message full of xenophobia and hatred towards the foreigner. Trump's case is the most noteworthy, but there are others such as Austria or Switzerland. Are you worried about this phenomenon?
    Francis: That is what they call populism. Which is an equivocal term, because, in Latin America, populism has another meaning. In Latin America, it means that the people —for instance, people's movements— are the protagonists. They are self-organized, it is something else. When I started to hear about populism in Europe I didn't know what to make of it, I got lost, until I realized that it had different meanings. Crises provoke fear, alarm. In my opinion, the most obvious example of European populism is Germany in 1933. After [Paul von] Hindenburg, after the crisis of 1930, Germany is broken, it needs to get up, to find its identity, a leader, someone capable of restoring its character, and there is a young man named Adolf Hitler who says: "I can, I can". And all Germans vote for Hitler. Hitler didn't steal the power, his people voted for him, and then he destroyed his people. That is the risk. In times of crisis, we lack judgment, and that is a constant reference for me. Let's look for a savior who gives us back our identity and lets defend ourselves with walls, barbed-wire, whatever, from other peoples that may rob us of our identity. And that is a very serious thing. That is why I always try to say: talk among yourselves, talk to one another. But the case of Germany in 1933 is typical, a people that was immersed in a crisis, that looked for its identity until this charismatic leader came and promised to give their identity back, and he gave them a distorted identity, and we all know what happened. Where there is no conversation... Can borders be controlled? Yes, each country has the right to control its borders, who comes and who goes, and those countries at risk —from terrorism or such things— have even more the right to control them more, but no country has the right to deprive its citizens of the possibility to talk with their neighbors.
    Question: Do you see, Holy Father, any sign of that 1933 Germany in today's Europe?
    Francis: I am no expert, but, with regard to today's Europe, I refer to the three speeches I have made. The two in Strasbourg and the third one on the occasion of the Charlemagne prize, the only award I have accepted because they insisted a lot due to the situation Europe was in, and I accepted it as a service. Those three speeches say what I think about Europe.
    Question: Is corruption the great sin of our times?
    Francis: It is a big sin. But I think that we must not think of ourselves as historically exclusive. There has always been corruption. Always. Here. If you read about the history of Popes, you will find some nice scandals... Just to mention my own house and not talk about others. There are examples of neighboring countries where there was corruption, but I will stay with my own. There was corruption here. A lot. Just think of Pope Alexander VI, and Lucrezia with her [poisoned] "teas".
    Question: What do you hear from Spain? What do you hear about how are your message, your mission, your work received in Spain?
    Francis: What I just got from Spain are some polvorones [shortbread] and turrón de Jijona [nougat] that I am going to share with the guys.
    Question: Ha ha. In Spain there us a very lively debate on laicism and religiousness, as you know...
    Francis: Very lively...
    Question: What do you think about it? Is it possible that the laicism process, in the end, will force the Catholic Church out to the margins?
    Francis: Talk. That is the advice I give to every country. Talk, please. A fraternal conversation, if you feel up to it, or at least in a civilized way. Don't throw insults at each other. Don't condemn before talking. If, after the conversation, you still want to insult the other, alright, but first talk. If, after the conversation, you still want to condemn the other, alright, but first talk. Today, with the level of human development, politics without talking is unconceivable. And that applies to Spain and to elsewhere. So, if you ask me for advice for the Spanish people, I say: talk. If there are problems, first, talk.
    Question: It is no surprise that from Latin America your words and your decisions are followed with special interest. How do you see the continent? How do you see your country?
    Francis: The trouble is that Latin America is suffering the effects —that I emphasized in Laudato Si— of an economic system that has the money god at its center, and that means policies that lead to a lot of exclusion. Which leads to a lot of suffering. It is obvious that Latin America today is the target of a strong attack from economic liberalism, the one I condemn in Evangelii Gaudium when I say that "this economy kills". It kills with hunger, it kills with a lack of culture. Migration flows not just from Africa to Lampedusa or Lesbos. Migration flows also from Panama to the Mexican-U.S. border. People migrate in search of something. Because liberal systems don't give them job opportunities and foster criminality. In Latin America there is the problem of the drug cartels, drugs that are consumed in the United States and Europa. They make them for the rich countries here, and they lose their lives in the process. And there are those who do it willingly. In my homeland we have a term to describe them: cipayos [sepoy]. It is a classic, literary word, included in our national poem. The cipayo es the one who sells his homeland to the foreign power who pays him the most. In the history of Argentina, for instance, there has always been a cipayo among the politicians. Or some political position worthy of cipayos. Always. So Latin America must rearm itself with political groups that recover the strength of the people. The biggest example for me is Paraguay after the war. The country lost the War of the Triple Alliance and was left almost entirely in the hands of women. And the Paraguayan woman felts that she had to rebuild the nation, defend their faith, defend their culture and defend their language, and she did it. The Paraguayan woman. She wasn't a cipaya, she defended what was hers, at the expense of anything, but she defended it, and she repopulated the country. I think that she is the most glorious woman in the Americas. That is the case of a position that never gave up. Of heroism. In Buenos Aires there is a neighborhood, on the bank of the Río de la Plata, where the streets bear the names of patriotic women, women who fought for independence, for their homeland. The women have more sense. Maybe I am exaggerating. So, I exaggerate. Correct me. But they have a stronger inclination towards defending their homeland because they are mothers. They are less cipayas. They are less at risk of being cipayas.
    Question: That is why it hurts so much so witness the violence against women, which such a scourge in Latin America and so many other places...
    Francis: Everywhere. In Europe... In Italy, for instance, I have visited organizations that rescue female prostitutes who are being taken advantage of by Europeans. One of them told me that they had brought her from Slovakia in a car trunk. They tell her: you have to earn such and such today, and if you don't bring it in, we will beat you. They beat her. In Rome? In Rome. The circumstances of these women, in Rome!, is terrifying. In the house that I visited, there was a woman that had had an ear cut off. When they don't earn enough, they torture them. And they are trapped because they are frightened, the abusers tell them that they are going to kill their parents. Albanians, Nigerians, even Italians. One very good thing this association does is that they go down the streets, approach the women and, instead of asking how much do you charge, how much do you cost, they ask: How much do you suffer? And they take them to a safe community so that they may recover. Last year, I visited one of those communities with recovering girls, and there were two men, two volunteers. And one of the women said to me: I found him. She had married the man who had rescued her and they were eager to have a child. The use of the woman is one of the worst things that are happening, also in Rome. The woman as a slave.
    Question: Don't you think that, after the failed attempt of the Liberation Theology, the Catholic Church has lost many points to the benefit of other denominations and even cults? What is the reason?
    Francis: The Liberation Theology was very positive for Latin America. The Vatican condemned the part that adopted the Marxist analysis of reality. Cardinal Ratzinger conducted two inquiries when he was Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. One, very clear, about the Marxist analysis of reality. And a second one that recovered some positive aspects. Liberation Theology had positive aspects and also deviations, mainly in the part of the Marxist analysis of reality.
    Question: About your relationship with Argentina. In the last three years, the Vatican has become a pilgrimage destination for politicians of all colors. Have you felt used?
    Francis: Ah, yes. Some say: We are having our picture taken, just as a souvenir, and I promise it will be for my personal use, I will not publish it. And before getting out the door it is already published. [He smiles]. Well, if that makes him happy, that is his problem. His quality as a person diminishes. The user is a small person. What can I do. It's his problem, not mine. There are many Argentinians in the general audience. In Argentina there always was a lot of travel, but nowadays, coming to a general audience with the Pope is almost mandatory. [Laughs]. There are also those who come and are my friends —I lived for 76 years in Argentina—, sometimes family, several nephews and nieces. But I have felt used, yes, there are people that have used me, my pictures, my words, as if I had said anything to them, and whenever someone asks me, I always respond: it's not my problem, I didn't say anything. But I am not getting into it. Everybody deals with his own conscience.
    Question: A frequent subject is the role of laymen and, most of all, the role of women in the Church. Your wish is that they have a bigger influence and even a role in decision-making. Those are your wishes. How far do you think that you will be able to get?
    Francis: We must not look at the role of women from a functional point of view, because that way, in the end, the women, or the women's movement in the Church, will be some sort of chauvinism in skirts. No. It is much more important that a functional demand. The functional aspect is alright. The deputy director of the Press room at the Vatican is a woman, the director of the Vatican Museums is a woman. The functional aspect is alright. But my concern is that women give us their thinking, because the Church is female, is Jesus Christ's wife, and that is the theological foundation of women. When they ask me, I say yes, but women could have more. But what was more important on Pentecost, the Virgin or the apostles? The Virgin. The functional aspect may betray it when we put the woman in her place. We must do that, no doubt. Because there is a long way ahead yet, and we must work so that she may give to the Church the freshness of her being and her thinking.
    Question: On some trips, I have listened to you addressing the churchmen, both from the Roman Curia and from the local hierarchies or even common priests and nuns, to ask of them more commitment, more proximity, even better humor. How do you think they receive those advices, those rebukes?
    Francis: My focus is always proximity, closeness. And it is well received in general. There are always more fundamentalist groups, in every country, in Argentina. They are small groups and I respect them, they are good people that prefer to live their faith that way. I preach what I feel that the Lord asks me to preach.
    Question: In Europe there is an increasing number of priests and nuns originating from the so-called Third World. What is the reason for this?
    Francis: A hundred and fifty years ago, in Latin America, there were more and more European priests and nuns, same as in Africa and Asia. Young churches expanded. In Europe there are no births. Italy has a rate below zero. I think that France is leading the way now, thanks to all the natality laws. But there are no births. The Italian welfare of years ago cut down births. We'd rather go on vacation, we have a dog, a cat, we don't have children and, if there are no births, there are no vocations.
    Question: In your consistories you have created cardinals from all over the world. How would you like the next conclave to be, the one that will elect your successor? Your Holiness, do you think that you will witness the next conclave?
    Francis: I want it to be Catholic. A Catholic conclave that chooses my successor.
    Question: And will you see it?
    Francis: I don't know. That is for God to decide. When I feel that I cannot go on, my great teacher Benedict taught me how to do it. And, if God carries me away before that, I will see it from the afterlife. I hope it will not be from Hell... But I want it to be a Catholic consistory.
    Question: I see you very happy to be a Pope.
    Francis: The Lord is good and hasn't taken away my good humor.
    Translation from Spanish by María Luisa Rodríguez Tapia.

    Francis reminds us of this person who threw a fit because they didn’t get their way but not before making sure that the cameras were focused on them and their illogicality