Showing posts with label methodists. Show all posts
Showing posts with label methodists. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 12, 2018

Is the Vatican paying residuals to The United Methodist Church?


The logo for The Synod of Bishops for the Pan-Amazon region in Rome 2019 was released earlier this week.  Quickly examining it, doesn’t it look an awful lot like the flame & cross logo of the United Methodist Church?  Since it is trademarked and synonymous with methodists, one wonders if the Vatican is making royalty payments to the The United Methodist Church?  Will they adopt the rumored exceptions — for having married priests and female deacons at the Synod — as the Methodists have too?  Regardless, look for the upcoming Synod to be a circus planned down to its last detail where a predetermined anti-Catholic agenda is shoved down the throats of all and billed as grass-root democracy, in which the people tell Francis what Catholicism ought to be.

 The Vatican’s copy-and-paste design for the upcoming Synod.

The iconic symbol of the methodists.

Wednesday, August 23, 2017

Francis expresses his closeness to the oldest sect of protestanism (400 years before Martin Luther) in latest letter



Dear Brothers and Sisters,
On the occasion of the opening of your annual Synod, I wish to express the Catholic Church’s and my own closeness to you. I greet you fraternally and assure you with much cordiality of my remembrance in prayer.
I keep alive in my memory our recent meetings at Turin and Rome, as well as those in Argentina. I am grateful for the beautiful testimonies I have received and for the many faces I cannot forget. I hope that these days of sharing and reflection, which are taking place on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, are animated by the joy of putting yourselves before the face of Christ; may His gaze, which is turned to us, be the source of our peace, so that we feel ourselves beloved children of the Father and makes us see others, the world and history in new way.
May Jesus’ gaze also illumine our relations, so that they are not only formal and correct but fraternal and lively. The Good Shepherd wills us to be on the way together, and His gaze now embraces all of us, His disciples that He desires to see fully united.
It is so important to walk towards full unity, with a look of hope that acknowledges the presence of God stronger. It is so especially today, in a world marked by violence and fear, of lacerations and indifference, where the egoism of affirming oneself at the expense of others darkens the simple beauty of welcoming, sharing and loving one another. However, our Christian witness cannot yield to the logic of the world: together we must help one another to choose and live the logic of Christ!
I thank you with fraternal affection and ask you, please, not to forget to pray for me and for all of us your brothers and sisters.
From the Vatican, August 10, 2017
FRANCIS
[Original text: Italian]
© Translation by ZENIT, Virginia M. Forrester


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Friday, March 27, 2015

Francis to meet with the Waldensians

Who are the Waldensians?  They are the oldest sect of heretical Protestantism, which is so old it originated four centuries before the word Protestant was coined!

Peter Waldo, Valdo, Valdes, or Waldes , 
also Pierre Vaudès or de Vaux (1140 AD – 1205 AD)

The Vatican recently released the schedule of Francis for his visit to the city of Turin, Italy.  The official purpose of the trip is for Francis to make a pilgrimage to view the Shroud of Turin.  Tucked away in the schedule is a mention of a stop on 22 June 2015 at Tempio Valdese.  It will be the first time a pontiff has ever entered a Waldensian church.  The Waldensian religion originated in the 12th century and is considered the oldest Protestant religion in existence.  As the years have passed the Waldensians have aligned themselves with various heretical sects and today's modern Waldensians see themselves as inheritors of the so-called reforms of Huldrych Zwingli and John Calvin.  In Italy, the Waldensians have aligned themselves with the Methodist churches.

The inscription over the entrance reads, "Believe in Jesus Chrit and you will be saved."
Tempio Valdese, Torino, Italia which Francis will visit.

Francis is scheduled to meet Waldensian dignitaries in the Tempio Valdese for one hour and a half.  Sometime in that period all parties involved will publicly pray the Lord's Prayer together.  In August 2014, Francis reached out to the group by sending a message to the Waldensian Methodist Synod in Italy.  What make this whole thing interesting is that the Waldensians are opposed to the veneration of any relics as well as all the saints and the Blessed Virgin Mary.  Remember, Francis' reason for going to Turin is to see the Shroud.  Francis will probably chalk it up to the 'god of surprises' he believes in.  We feel if St. John Bosco were alive today, he would chase Francis from the city limits of Turin unless his faithful dog Grigio had beat him to it.  St. John Bosco was not known for his tenderness towards the Waldensians.  The reason for this besides them being heretics is the Waldensians made several unsuccessful attempts at assassinating St. John Bosco.

St. John Bosco died in Turin & his major shrine, the Basilica 
of Our Lady Help of Christians, is located there.

Monday, November 24, 2014

Coming soon to a Novus Ordo Church near you in the United States?

...Muslims lead Friday Jumu'ah prayers in Washington's National Cathedral!


BY STEPHANIE SAMUEL , CHRISTIAN POST REPORTER
November 14, 2014|2:52 pm

The Washington National Cathedral and five Muslim groups hold the first celebration of Muslim Friday prayers, Jumaa, in the cathedral's north transept in Washington, November 14, 2014.

The Washington National Cathedral hosted it first Muslim prayer service Friday afternoon in an effort to promote interfaith prayer and improved global relations between Muslims and Christians.

 Unidentified woman protester at Washington National Cathedral disrupts first Muslim prayer service Friday afternoon and shouts, "We have built, and allowed you here in mosques across this country. Why can't you worship in your mosque, and leave our chuches alone?"


UPDATE: 3:31 p.m. The Muslim prayer service held at the Washington National Cathedral was briefly disrupted by a protester, according to a local NBC report.

"Jesus Christ died on that cross over there!" a woman said loudly, immediately after announcements at the beginning of the service were made. "He is the reason why we are to worship only him. Jesus Christ is our lord and savior!"

According to the NBC report, she continued, "We have built, and allowed you here in mosques across this country. Why can't you worship in your mosque, and leave our chuches alone?"

The protester was then escorted out of the cathedral, News4's Kristin Wright reported. She was removed without incident, but she continued her protest once she was taken to an adjoining space. 


The Catholic church [CMJ's note, this is incorrect. This not a Catholic church but an Episcopal Protestant church.] in Washington, D.C. altered its visitor tour schedule in order to host traditional Islamic Friday prayers called Jumu'ah. The service was led by South African Ambassador Ebrahim Rasool, and held in the Cathedral's north transept, an area considered "almost mosque-like" because of its arches and limited iconography.

Omar Abdul-Malik prays alone as the Washington National Cathedral and five Muslim groups hold the first celebration of Muslim Friday prayers, Jumaa, in the cathedral's north transept.
Although this is not the first time the Cathedral has welcomed Muslims to join in on its interfaith services and events, it is the first time it has invited Muslims to lead their own prayers within its walls.

Rev. Canon Gina Gilland Campbell was scheduled to offer a welcome to start off the service.

According to the National Cathedral website,Campbell wanted to hold the historic service because she believes that "powerful things come out of praying together."

The site further explains "Leaders believe offering Muslim prayers at the Christian cathedral shows more than hospitality. It demonstrates an appreciation of one another's prayer traditions and is a powerful symbolic gesture toward a deeper relationship between the two Abrahamic traditions."

Women pray as the Washington National Cathedral and five Muslim groups hold the first celebration of Muslim Friday prayers, Jumaa, in the cathedral's north transept.
Not everyone supports the Cathedral's gesture. American Family Association Director of Issue Analysis Bryan Fischer said the Muslim prayer service violates the Ten Commandments.

"The first one of the Ten Commandments is what, you—talking the nation of Israel, true for individuals but this was the Ten Commandments for a nation – you shall have no other Gods before me. Allah is another God," He explained on his Focal Point podcast.

This is not the first time the National Cathedral has invited controversy with its services. In June the Cathedral invited openly transgendered Episcopal priest Rev. Cameron Partridge to preach from its pulpit in honor of LGBT pride month. Openly gay Episcopal Bishop Rev. Gene Robinson presided over the Sunday service. The Cathedral also hosts gay marriage ceremonies.

Planners hope Friday's service will inspire Muslims around the world to be hospitable to Christians.

The service was scheduled to be livestreamed onto the Cathedral's website so it is accessible to everyone.


Yes the above church is an Episcopal Protestant one but Francis and the Vatican hierarchy often take their cues from Protestant religions. Francis has extolled Protestants as authentic Christians and even called their bishops, "brothers". It is then natural for us to speculate that Francis with his 'humbleness' and 'infinite compassion' for heretics dictates at some point in the future to his churches that on Friday they open their doors to their Moslem brethren so they can have a place to pray. After all Francis believes Moslems pray to the same god as he prays to.

The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) in New Jersey already allow Moslems to pray in their Temples on Friday. As have the Methodists in Tennessee. The Episcopal Church in Connecticut even sold an empty church to the Moslems when they found out they were in need of a mosque. Not to be outdone the Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Syracuse, New York was sold to Moslems for $150,000 and turned into a mosque. The trend of converting empty churches into mosques has spread like wildfire in Europe. In Italy some Catholic churches have already decided to open their door to Moslems on Friday years ago!

So much for Fridays being dedicated to Our Lord's Crucifixion. Is it any wonder churches around the world are empty when the so-called leaders of various churches don't understand the basics of the Faith?