Showing posts with label modernist Rome. Show all posts
Showing posts with label modernist Rome. Show all posts

Saturday, September 22, 2018

Comrade Parolin announces signing of the provisional Holy See — China agreement






Francis welcomes Red Chinese communist bishops : H.E. Mgr Joseph Guo Jincai, H.E. Mgr Joseph Huang Bingzhang, H.E. Mgr Paul Lei Shiyin, H.E. Mgr Joseph Liu Xinhong, H.E. Mgr Joseph Ma Yinglin, H.E. Mgr Joseph Yue Fusheng, H.E. Mgr Vincent Zhan Silu and H.E. Mgr Anthony Tu Shihua, OFM, to his Novus Ordo Circus!  Communists from South America, North America, Europe, and Asia unite!



In no small part, thanks to John XXIII.



And the great bridge builder, Cardinal McCarrick.

Thursday, September 20, 2018

Bp. Fellay, “we are Catholics and the modern church recognizes us as Catholics.”







“Our situation is now as follows: first, and I can give you statements from Rome that say very clearly that the Society is not schismatic. So we are Catholics and the modern church recognizes us as Catholics. But they say there is something irregular because you do not have canonical status. And they do not want to give us this canonical status before we say that the new Mass is good and the council is good. And we're not going to say it, so we're stuck here. At the same time, you have heard that the Pope gave us the power to confess everyone. Everyone can come with us, not only our faithful, everybody, and the priest has the power to give confession. This is true also for the Last Rights, that is for the Extreme Unction, and recently we have also, in a curious way, the power for marriages. It is even more than that. Just to show you that even if there are certain things which are not yet complete, on the other side many things that are already written down, where Rome is accepting us as Catholics. I give you some examples. For example, if a priest is doing very, very bad, so he needs to be punished. And so the superior, which was myself, I contact Rome and say I'm sorry one of our priests did a big thing and several time Rome did appoint myself as the judge of the case. So I think tribunal know in the name of Rome on one or several of our priests even one times they appointed me as the tribunal of second instance what is Rome made the judgement, the priest appealed against this decision from Rome, and Rome didn't recognize that they made a mistake, and they asked me to be the second judge for that case. How can this be if we are not Catholics? You see? Here we have examples in real life which shows that they consider us as Catholics. Though they say that everything is not yet finished. It is true, we all recognize that. We all say who made the first mistake?”

conference with Bp. Fellay, St. Joseph Priory, Davao City, Mindanao, Philippines, (3 September 2018).




Break out the champagne, the modernists recognize the FSSPX as one of their own!



So much for not collaborating with Modernist Rome...

Friday, June 29, 2018

Bp. Fellay discusses the FSSPX’s desire to become a ‘personal prelature’ and their future goals


 Bp. Fellay wants the Society to become a ‘personal preature’

In a recent interview with Regina Einig for Die Tagespost„Wir sind ein Störfaktor in der Kirche“ Bp. Fellay tackled the Society’s relationship with modernist Rome, “goodness is there, benevolence. For years, we have been working with Rome to rebuild trust. And we have made great progress despite all the reactions.... The main points - religious freedom, ecumenism, new mass - are all open questions. This is incredible progress. Until now it has been said: You must obey. Meanwhile, curia workers tell us: we should open a seminary in Rome, a university for the defense of tradition.”  Regina Einig then asked ‘What would a reasonable solution be?’ to which Fellay replied, “A personal prelature.”  Bp. Fellay then explained why the talks with modernist Rome have stalled, “Last year, Archbishop Pozzo told us that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Congregation approved the text we were to sign. We should agree with a personal prelature. One and a half months later, Cardinal Müller decided to revise the text and demand a clearer acceptance of the Council [Vatican II] and the legitimacy of the Holy Mass [Novus Ordo Missae]. First of all, we opened discussion channels, then they blocked them. What do you really want from us? This is where the devil works. It is a spiritual fight.”  Lastly, responded when asked, ‘Do you personally trust Francis?’, “We have a very good relationship. If we let him know that we are in Rome, this door is open. He is always helping us on a smaller scale. For example, he told us, "I have problems when I do something good for you. I help Protestants and Anglicans - why can not I help the Catholics? " Some want to prevent the agreement. We are a disruptive factor in the church. The Pope stands in between.”  Bp. Fellay’s interview with
Regina Einig ends with the bishop showing her a handwritten letter from Francis to Bp. Fellay in French with the address “Cher frere, cher fils” (Dear brother, dear son).
Anonymous members of the Roman Curia want a seminary like this in Rome.


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The interdenominational Pentagon Memorial Chapel where the SSPX will concelebrate Mass.


At this point what’s the difference between the SSPX and the Indult?



**** UPDATE 1 JULY 2018 ****

A well written post exploring the implications of a priest of the FSSPX joining the US military chaplaincy including: whom would be his bishop; what rite would he celebrate; and what this says about the leadership of the SSPX; can be read at the link below.

Thursday, May 11, 2017

Friday, March 17, 2017

Abp. Guido Pozzo discusses the Society’s talks with modernist Rome



“The path of reconciliation between the FSSPX and the Holy See has been pursued persistently since 2009, albeit gradually and at different stages. Today we can say that the rapprochement has progressed a lot, and we can be confident that the rupture will soon be overcome with the canonical recognition of the Fraternity in the legal form of a Personal Prelature.”




“I think it is clear that the possible acquisition of a governing church or a church in Rome by the SSPX presupposes full reconciliation and formal legal recognition by the Holy See.”




“The problem then is not the Vatican II Council as such, but a certain form of understanding, practice or application , which is called the ‘spirit of the council.’ Pope Benedict XVI spoke of a ‘true council’ and a ‘virtual council’, the latter being the fruit of the power of mass media, the modernist current in theology, in other words, has eclipsed the authentic ‘mens’ [Latin: mind] of the council fathers.”





“On the other hand, the preservation of the spiritual, theological, liturgical, disciplinary and pastoral identities of the priestly brotherhood [FSSPX] is guaranteed by a special law with its corresponding statutes.  There are no fixed time limits.  Let us entrust ourselves to the intercession and maternal support of Our Lady of Fatima, whose hundredth anniversary we are celebrating this year.”



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