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Francis & the 'six million' visitors

Related:

• six hands kissed for six million!

• the magic #6 at Yad Vashem

• Bp. Fellay & the six million

A noahide Xmas with Sister Cristina

If she were not wearing the costume of a nun, the world would have never heard of her.   Here is Cristina going out among the peripheries as commanded by Francis.  

Sister Cristina singing at the Concerto di Natale

Mariah Carey's All I Want For Xmas Is You

Coldplay's Fix You *

* Coldplay is a group best know for their anti-Catholic hit album Viva la Vida whose subject is the decline of the Catholic Church in Revolutionary France



*** BONUS ****

DJ Bob Sinclar and his electro house dance music

More:

• Will Francis attend the 22nd Edition of the Christmas Concert?

How long until Sister Cristina sings at the Steubenville Youth Conference Concert with Stan Fortuna?

We at Call Me Jorge... have no clue as to why this video was shot in front of the 30ft (9m) sculpture, The Writer by artist Giancarlo Neri.  The Writer is a piece of artwork about writer's block.

Joy to the world, A Savior is born!

Luke 2, 6-20

And it came to pass, that when they were there, her days were accomplished, that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him up in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. And there were in the same country shepherds watching, and keeping the night watches over their flock. And behold an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the brightness of God shone round about them; and they feared with a great fear. And the angel said to them: Fear not; for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, that shall be to all the people:

For, this day, is born to you a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord, in the city of David. And this shall be a sign unto you. You shall find the infant wrapped in swaddling clothes, and laid in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly army, praising God, and saying: Glory to God in the highest; and on earth peace to men of good will. And it came to pass, after the angels departed from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another: Let us go over to Bethlehem, and let us see this word that is come to pass, which the Lord hath shewed to us.

And they came with haste; and they found Mary and Joseph, and the infant lying in the manger. And seeing, they understood of the word that had been spoken to them concerning this child. And all that heard, wondered; and at those things that were told them by the shepherds. But Mary kept all these words, pondering them in her heart. And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God, for all the things they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them. 

more modernist junk from the Vatican

Francis is turning the Novus Ordo into a NGO!

#LifeofWomen (English)

#LifeofWomen (Italian)

Francis' modus operandi

first,

• The Pope Just Helped the US and Cuba Make Up. What International Conflict Will He Fix Next?

then,

• Cuban-Americans Denounce Pope Francis: ‘I Am a Catholic Without a Pope’

to be followed by,

• Coming soon.. bergoglio throws out an anti-communist line

Francis the Janus-faced insult comic

Francis can't let a day go by without insulting someone.  One minute he is complementing people (sometimes even degenerates) the next, he is ripping into someone else.  What gives?  It is like we have a present day Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in the papal office.  Francis gave the annual Christmas address to the Curia yesterday which came off more like Yiddish shtick.  Every disease he accused the Curia of having, is a trait of Francis himself.    He then addressed the Vatican workers and showered them with compliments.  Don't worry, he got in a backhanded insult when he also called the workers "unknown" and "invisible".  We don't know if the dear readers of this blog have been to the Vatican but on our visits we found the faithful staff at the Vatican anything but "invisible" and "unknown".   These people were all over the Vatican keeping the workings of it humming.  If anything, the bureaucrats were the ones "invisible" to us.  After that compliment, Francis told them not to gossip and talk bad of others.  Does Francis ever listen to the words coming out of his mouth?  We really wonder if he could make it through a day without insulting a person.  Is Francis bi-polar or is he just reflecting the ideas of the Kabbalists and Freemasons he surrounds himself with?

gevurah

chesed

Doctor Francis gives his diagnosis on the Curia

According to Francis, the Curia is suffering from 15 diseases.  We at Call Me Jorge... are hoping he quarantines the Curia and himself for at least a year, else these diseases will rapidly spread.  Here is a list of the diseases of the Curia as only a modernist like Francis could imagine:

• The disease of feeling 'immortal' or 'essential'
• The disease of excessive activity
• The diseases of mental and spiritual 'petrification'
• The disease of overplanning
• The disease of bad coordination
• The disease of spiritual Alzheimer's
• The disease of rivalry and vainglory
• The disease of existential schizophrenia
• The disease of gossip and chatter
• The disease of deifying the leaders
• The disease of indifference to others
• The disease of the funeral face
• The disease of hoarding
• The disease of closed circles
• The disease of worldly profit and exhibitionism

Dear reader, do you see any diseases which Francis seems to be suffering from? 

Francis ended his talk with this little dandy,

"priests are like airplanes, they make the headlines only when they fall, but there are many who fly. Many criticise, and few pray for them."

What?

an update on Krah's crèche

The Maurice Pinay blog has posted Max's crèche and added some additional information which we include below.  Is Krah a jester and having a laugh at Catholics, imagining himself a magician who has amalgamated Zionism into a superior place in the birth of Our Lord Jesus the Christ?

Saturday, December 20, 2014

The SSPX Macher's hexed Christ

Updated below with clarification 12/21:

Found by callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com at SSPX Bishop Fellay's business partner Maximilian Krah's Instagram account:

UPDATE:

On the matter of the occult meaning of the hexagram (as above, so below) Rabbi Abraham Heschel, (the Kabbalist who was invited to collaborate on a Vatican II document even after stating that he intended to attack Christian souls with 'Holocaust' guilt) admitted that Counterfeit Israel adopted this foreign, occult doctrine:

"In many places in the Zohar you will find the statement that the Holy and Blessed one created this world on the model of the world above: 'Everything that exists above is replicated below' (Zohar Pekudei 221a). In the opinion of the sages, the people brought with them from Babylonia the names of the angels. But we have not yet been able to discover the source of the [non-biblical] concept of the parallelism of the world above and the world below." (Abraham Joshua Heschel, Gordon Tucker, Heavenly Torah: as refracted through the generations, p.266)

The hexagram has no historical significant meaning to Christianity but it has been proprietary to pagan, occult traditions for thousands of years. The hexagram (and its underlying occult doctrine, as above, so below) was adopted by Counterfeit Israel and is now proprietary to Judaism, Zionism and Holocaustianity.

Maximilian Krah has repeatedly, openly, brazenly displayed his solidarity with Zionism, Judaism and the Israeli military to a degree unsurpassed by the most craven, ingratiating, Judaic-boot-licking U.S. politicians and Novus Ordo clerics. This is indisputably documented here:

The file on Maximilian Krah

To deny this glaring context to Krah's use of a hexagram is uninformed ignorance or willful ignorance, God knows which.

Also see:

Why Does Pope Francis Promote the Hasidic Painting, "The White Crucifixion"?

the "new evangelization" in Brazil

...with Padre Elvis

All shook up!

the crèche at the Krah's house

Monsignor John M. Oesterreicher

Does anyone have any information on H. Suzanne Jobert?


Two excerpts from the 10 July 1983, Our Sunday Visitor article,  GOD'S 'LOVING WILL' SPURS CHURCH'S 'JEWISH CONNECTION' by James C. O'Neill, underlines are ours for emphasis:

..."Nobody says anything against the Egyptian authorities for oppressing the Coptic Christians. No one protested vehemently against the forced closing of St. Joseph's College years ago in Iraq, nor against the laws in Jordan prior to 1967 which prohibited Christians from acquiring new property. If Israel did any of these things, everyone would cry bloody murder, from the authorities in Rome to Catholics all over the world... This is prejudice." (direct quote from Oesterreicher)

...In the U.S. he continued preaching and teaching, and his interest in the theological relations between Christians and Jews grew. In 1953 he was given an opportunity to found the Institute for Judeo-Christian Studies at Seton Hall. It was the first Catholic academic institution of its kind to be devoted to developing greater mutual understanding and respect of the two faiths. 

With the calling of the Second Vatican Council, Msgr. Oesterreicher and a number of Church leaders and scholars saw an opportunity sent by God to try to right some of the wrongs done to Jews over the centuries.

"Whatever I achieved at the Second Vatican Council," he said, "I did not accomplish single-handedly. I was a member of a team." Nevertheless, it was the body of his writings in The Bridge, the institute's scholarly publication, and in many international journals, and his persistent lobbying of bishops at Vatican Council II, which was to be of great influence in the final document on the Jews.

Looking back on the Vatican Council's adoption of the statement, he says: "... in the rediscovery of Judaism, that is, of its own independent worth and its significance for the Church, in the reordering of the relationship of Christians and Jews, and in their new encounter, God's spirit triumphs."

Recent popes have also contributed much to the development of dialogue and respect among Catholics and Jews, he says. he gives high marks to Pope John XXIII, who ordered that the Good Friday liturgy be purged of the term "perfidious Jews." He also gives high marks to Pope Paul VI, who presided over the council and met with leaders of Jewish communities where he traveled, and Pope John Paul II. The present pope, he said, has shown special affection for the Jews whenever he has a chance to meet and talk with them.

Francis meets with fellow usurer & numerologist, Christine Lagarde

Francis is always droning on and on about the poor, unemployment, starvation, and a whole slew of pet causes.  One thing you'll never hear out of his mouth is that usury is evil.  All those pet causes Francis loves to push are symptoms of usury.  At least some in the "peace loving" religion of Islam still understand this.  When Lagarde visited Egypt to further indebt the country to the IMF, politician Younis Makhyoun of the Salafi Nour Party said,

“God will never bless an economy based on usury.”

If only there were people in the West who understood this simple fact.  Instead we have Francis listening to Muhammad Yunus, a Bangladeshi Moslem, who is a proponent of micro-usury and fittingly also a supporter of sodomy.  And the Vatcian through its IOR and related foundations urges usury for the poor as a solution.

Just so the readers of this blog can see how different the head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde is from the run of the mill Roman Catholic, one can watch this excerpt from her speech at the National Press Club on the magic number “7” and numerology.

The Magic number “7” references:

1:22 – “Now I’m going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven”
1:34 – “Most of you will know that seven is quite a number
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
4:08 – “It will mark the 70th anniversary, 70th anniversary, drop the zero, seven, of the Bretton Woods Conference that actually gave birth to the IMF” (7 + 0 = 7)
4:22 – “And it will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, 25th..” (2 + 5 = 7)
4:38 – “It will also mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jietters”
5:08 – “After those seven miserable years, weak and fragile”
5:14 – “We have seven strong years”
5:43 – “Now I don’t know if the G7 will have anything to do with it” (G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet)

“2014” references:

1:18 – “The global economy and what we should expect for 2014″
2:19 – “So if we think about 2014″
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
3:54 – “So 2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in may respects”
5:05 – “So my hope and my wish for 2014″

If the reader is so inclined they can watch the whole presentation at the National Press Club below.



Numerology has long been significant to the Cryptocracy and we don't think it is very much of a stretch to guess Francis is into this as much as Christine is. 

Francis & the number “13”

13 December 1969 ordained a priest by Archbishop Ramón José Castellano,

31 July 1973 appointed Provincial of the Jesuits in Argentina,

room #13 was being held for him on the ground floor of the clergy retirement home on calle Condarco 581 where he planned to retire to, once the conclave was finished and he returned to Argentina

13 March 2013 elected to the papacy,

8:13 PM the official time of the election of Francis,

or 20:13 in 2013 A.D on the 13th.

Related :

• The SSPX Money Manager and "The Power of 72"

Tango & Cake

or bringing the brothel

to St. Peter's Square

Today was Francis' 78th birthday.  The expected gift of a 'flash mob' tango for him went as planned.  Nothing like jazzing up the season of Advent with the profane!  There was the usual circus surrounding Francis for this day: some seminarians baked him a cake & shared some yerba mate, a representative group of the homeless gave Francis eight sunflowers, the crowd sang Happy Birthday in several languages to him, a Spanish cooperative brought 800 kg of chicken, and the tango was danced!

Francis gives a shout out to the 'tangeros'

"I see the 'tangeros' are here. They will put on a great show and bring a wind from 
the pampas over here!" 

- Francis -

the profane tango

Coincidence? 

Today is not only Jorge Mario Bergoglio's birthday but it is also the first day of the ancient Roman Saturnalia celebrations. The Saturnalia tradition was continued in the riotous medieval festival known as the Feast of Fools.  The Catholic Church condemned the Feast of Fools many times until it forbade it in 1431 at the Council of Basil.  Symbolically this is an apt comparison to the revolution taking place today under Francis.  For the Feast of Fools was a carnivalesque rite of inversion,

"multiple forms of symbolic inversion, including cross-dressing, masking as animals, wafting foul-smelling incense, and electing burlesque bishops, popes, and patriarchs. The thrust of these burlesque forms was mockery of serious ritual and of the dominant social order behind it."

What is Francis doing to all the teachings of the Catholic Church if he is not inverting and perverting them?




Tango

Who is right and who is wrong about the tango?   Is it Francis or Pope Saint Pius X?

On behalf of Pope St. Pius X, the Vicar General of Rome Card. Basilio Pompili issued a Pastoral Letter in 1914 denouncing the tango as highly damaging to the soul. The Cardinal stated:

"The tango, which has already been condemned by illustrious Bishops and is prohibited even in Protestant countries, must be absolutely prohibited in the see of the Roman Pontiff, the centre of the Catholic religion." He urged the clergy to courageously raise their voices "to defend the sanctity of Christian customs against the threatening danger and overwhelming immorality of the new paganism." He also warned parents that if they do not protect their children from such corruption, they will be guilty before God of failing in their most sacred duties.  The New York Times, January 16, 1914

Happy 78th Birthday!

Recall, just the other day Francis said he wished Catholics would slip and fall on a banana peel because this would lead them to sin which would bring them back to God, not a Catholic idea is it?  Today, we have Francis at his general audience encouraging people to sin all the while smiling, laughing, and humbly sitting in a simple chair.  When one is out among the peripheries (which  Francis is always droning on and on about) without even a basic grasp of what Catholicism is, then the sinful values of the peripheries become your values.  Nothing sums this up like Francis and his love for the tango!  Is it any wonder the Novus Ordo has declining attendance and membership  with representatives like Suor Cristina and Francis?   If you are not on board with Francis and his revolution, you must be a traditionalist stick in the mud or as Francis would say, "Pharisee!"

Tango Mass with Cardinal Bergoglio

the tango begins at 26 minutes 38 seconds

how to dance the bergoglio

Tomorrow is Francis' 78th birthday and get this, in honor of it there will be public 'flash mob' tangos taking place in Rome near the Vatican!  The very same dance condemned by Pope Saint Pius X!  More on that later, after it takes place.  For now, we have an entry below taken from Michael over at PublicVigil and embellished with pictures!


bergoglio joke of the day

how to dance the bergoglio

The basic step is one step forward and two steps backward.

The weight is shifted from left to right, but always maintaining more weight on the left.

The music is usually tango, although the latest trend is to use punk rock sung by old washed up former "stars" or new covers of tired old 80s disco classics sung by new wannabee "stars" dressed as nuns.

The dance starts by one of the partners bowing his head on the chest of the other who kisses him on top of his head. This opening move is referred to as "the dialogue".

The dance is performed by two males. Traditionally one of the partners is referred to as "jorge" and the other as "bart".

In theory the lead partner is "jorge" but in practice bart and jorge are co-leaders, although this can cause some confusion for the dancers... and also the audience.

After the opening "dialogue" the rest of the dance troupe dressed in red forms a circle around the lead dancers. Their task is to try to imitate the moves of the lead dancers which can be quite difficult since the dance is so unpredictable.

If one of the members of the troupe is unable (or unwilling) to imitate the moves of the two lead dancers then they are escorted to the "maltese room". This is a separate isolated area. There is no admittance back into the dance from the maltese room.

Eventually all the dancers become exhausted and dizzy from all the hopping and contortions and spinning and fall on the floor in a pile of bodies.

.... this is when the real fun begins...

~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~

I'm getting dizzy just watching all of that spinning...

... and the contortions required to follow the lead dancer dressed in white...

... call him "jorge"... that's what he likes...

... right, "jorge"... he's a very accomplished dancer....

... yes, he learned those intricate tango moves in argentina...

... in the whore houses...

... oh no, they dance tango in the cathedral these days...

... that's good... i guess... i still can't get used to two men tangling their legs up that way...

... oh, but it's very trendy and popular...

... i know... but i am having a hard time appreciating this new fashion... it must just be me...

... no, it's not just you...

All that was missing were the balloons!

Francis' favorite Noahide mess

The applause as he humbly processes 

out of St. Peter's is fitting!

the flag of the Indigenous Nations of Abya Yala

Misa Criolla at St. Peter's Basilica

The alliance of Confederations of Nations of Indigenous Peoples of Abya Yala are an anti-Catholic and anti-Spainish group which wishes to erase the name America from the history books.  Their flag is similar to the Noahide one.  Why did Francis have them front and center in St. Peter's Basilica for the Misa Criolla unless he agrees with their principles?

More:

• the "new evangelization" in Argentina

Francis invokes Pius XII in the name of modernism

Listen to Francis tell all those who don't want to go along with his revolutionary changes that they are Pharisees! 

 Do his rabbinical friends who follow the Talmud know he is comparing them to Catholics?

“Pius XII freed us from the very heavy cross that was the Eucharistic fast… So many Pharisees were scandalized!”

- Francis -

Francis prays that Catholics will fall into sin!

"And sometimes, I confess something to you, when I have seen a Christian, a Christian of that kind, with a weak heart, not firm, not fixed on the rock—Jesus – and with such rigidness on the outside, I ask the Lord: ‘But Lord, throw a banana peel in front of them, so that they will take a good fall, and feel shame that they are sinners, and so encounter You, [and realize] that You are the Saviour. Many times a sin will make us feel shame, and make us encounter the Lord, Who pardons us, as the sick who were there and went to the Lord for healing.”
- Francis - 

Meanwhile, Bp. Fellay is happy...

...blessing the Crèche at the EU

We have to hand it to Bp. Fellay, it takes guts to go into the modern day Tower of Babel and bless a Crèche!  This is the same building which houses the European Parliament whom Francis recently addressed.  Maybe the death of Catholic Europe, which the New World Order anticipates with glee, isn't likely to happen anytime soon.  We pray that all of Europe rediscovers their Catholic roots and begins once again to practice the Faith.   Could this be a first small step?

"That's where it all started, in the crib. It is therefore natural that European leaders pay homage to the God who comes among men to save them, He who is the King of Kings. We must remember what Cardinal Pie said to Napoleon III, 'If the time has come for Jesus Christ to reign, then it is time for governments to last'."

- Bp. Fellay, 9 Dec 2014 -

...and is in talks with the Vatican once again!

copy of internal memo from the General House

(Google translated version of letter)

Confidential internal memo from General House
Dissemination: priests members
Date: 26 November 2014

Note regarding a meeting of members of the fraternity with Cardinal Brandmüller.

In early December 2014, the first of the meetings must take place between members of the fraternity and the bishops will take place. . These interviews proposed by the Commission Ecclesia Dei after the meeting between Bishop Fellay and Cardinal Müller on Tuesday, September 23, 2014 in Rome, are informal meetings; they must develop without mediation or advertising. As announced in the internal note of the General House to priests the October 2, 2014, the choice of locations and partners is left to the initiative of the Fraternity.

The aim of the General House is to raise awareness of the positions of the fraternity to the prelates who are willing and able to hear our arguments.

Cardinal Brandmüller born in Germany on January 5, 1929, he was consecrated bishop in November 2010 and made ​​a cardinal the following week, on November 20, 2010. He is president emeritus of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences.  He is one of the co-authors of the work Staying in the truth of Christ , which refutes the thesis heterodox Cardinal Walter Kasper during the consistory of February 20, 2014.  See DICI n ° 301 of 20/09/14.
http://www.dici.org/documents/demeurer-dans-la-verite-du-christ-extraits/

This meeting will be held in German language Zaitzkofen; will be present Mons. Fellay, the Schmidberger, Frey, Udressy, Wuffloud, Gaudron and Kasteleiner Padres.  They will meet with Cardinal Brandmüller.

The issue to be addressed will be the special status of Vatican II - the authority of their documents, their interpretation and atypical nature of "pastoral council".

This note is an internal information confidential, not to be disseminated under any circumstances. The General House shall, if necessary, external communication a statement.

source: Christus Vincit forum

Madonna Ciccone endorsed Sister Cristina...

...and more

***** WARNING ***** 

***** IMMODEST PHOTOS BELOW *****

&

***** IMMODEST VIDEO LINK *****

Madonna Ciccone, the ex-Roman Catholic who now is a practitioner of the Kabbalah, a magical form of Talmudic Judaism, gave her endorsement to Sister Cristina on her instagram and twitter accounts.  On 23 October 2014, Ciccone posted the two photos with the comments, "Like A Virgin?" and "Sisters for Life!" as one can see below.

Madonna also shared her belief that she wrestles with her angel of darkness on her instagram account.  This is straight out of the mind of a kabbalist!

Like Madonna Ciccone, Suor Cristina uses social media to promote herself.  Below are some entries from her instagram account.

Francis is humble, simple, and cheerful according to Cristina!

The Italian translates as "No one one in a thousand" and "Best Wishes Sister Cristina." 
Notice the birthday cake is all about Suor Cristina and her singing.

These are Sister Cristina's new covers for her cell phone, an iphone4s.  

Screenshot of Cristina's cell phone.  It's all about her!

Her dream of having Francis endorse her came true even if it was photoshopped above.

Cristina and her coach from The Voice of Italy, J-Ax,  flashing the 
hand sign for LOSER which is what they both are.

This was the only thing on her instagram account we could find which was religious.  The hashtags read #love and #Jesus.  We are assuming that thing which looks like a dart board with a bullseye is a tabernacle with the usual ugly Novus Ordo design.

Here is a link to Suor Cristina singing on the French tv show, Danse Avec Les Stars (Dancing With the Stars).  Cristina is singing her re-interpreted single, "Like A Virgin" and notice the immodestly dressed dancers and the immodest dance.   In the Novus Ordo church it isn't about saving souls nor about preserving purity of soul.  It simply comes down to cold hard cash!  You know, that worshiping of money and mammon which Francis is always complaining about as an evil of this world.   His words ring hollow as do Cristina's when their actions are contrary to them and most definitely are not Catholic.

We at Call Me Jorge... are still amazed by the people who defend Suor Cristina.  What else can you say about her?  If you don't get it by now ― don't say there isn't any evidence showing who she truly is, a self-centered, wannabe rock-n-roll star who hasn't a clue what a religious is supposed to be much less an understanding of what the Catholic Faith is.

All dogs go to heaven...

...according to the New York Times
and Crux News!

'Saint' Charlie B. Barkin

NY Times 17 December 2014

Francis' theology of creatures?

Not so fast!  The New York Times' motto should be changed to "all the propaganda that's not fit to be print" and Crux News should rename themselves Crooked News.  In an article, Dogs in Heaven? Pope Francis Leaves Pearly Gates Open, published on 11 December 2014 there were several glaring errors made.

"Trying to console a distraught little boy whose dog had died, Francis told him in a recent public appearance on St. Peter’s Square that “paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.” While it is unclear whether the pope’s remarks helped soothe the child, they were welcomed by groups like the Humane Society and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, who saw them as a repudiation of conservative Catholic theology that says animals cannot go to heaven because they have no souls."

We at Call Me Jorge... cannot fathom how Rick Gladstone made these 'errors'.  Can he not read Italian?  Are there not fact checkers at the New York Times?  Or was he projecting his progressive desires onto Francis?  After the NY Times published his story many media outlets echoed it around the world.  Included in these was the Crux News outlet which published an edited version of Gladstone's story, Dogs — and all animals — go to heaven, pope says, which shares the quote below with the NY Times' article.

"Citing biblical passages that assert that animals not only go to heaven, but get along with one another when they get there, Francis was quoted by the Italian news media as saying: “One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.”

Theologians cautioned that Francis had spoken casually, not made a doctrinal statement."

Crux News has many on staff who are fluent in Italian and keep up with the minutiae of Francis.  What a joke these people are!

James Martin the editor of America Magazine wrote an entire article, Is Heaven Open to Animals?, which justifies the alleged comments attributed to Francis.

"First of all, it’s important to note that this was an apparently off-the-cuff remark from the Pope to a child...it was essentially a pastoral response to a child, and needs to be understood as such. It was also notable that, as far as I can tell, the Vatican did not release the Pope’s official remarks."

..."Pope Francis’s comments, though “pastoral” and though off-the-cuff, offer an important insight into the Pope Francis’s mind and also seems to reflect a change in what many Catholics believe—myself included."

..."To my mind, however, what Pope Francis said is clear. He's not trying to obfuscate and he does not say anything to children that he does not believe: The Pope believes, in his own heart, that paradise is open to all creatures."

Apparently if you can fog a mirror, the Novus Ordo church wants you as an editor.

Even a wannabe bishop, John Zuhl$dorf, wrote a blog entry on it, ASK FATHER: Will I have my pets again in heaven?  

This has probably been stirred up by something Pope Francis said recently in the press:

“One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.”

First and foremost, this was not – good grief… do I have to write this? – a definitive statement.

Thankfully Zuhl$dorf, even though he took the Francis quote at face value, rejected the idea that  animals may go to heaven in his blog entry because as he correctly points out,

"Animals don’t have immortal souls...They don’t need a Savior."

The original article, «Il Paradiso è aperto a tutte le creature»: così Papa Francesco sugli animali..., published by Corriere della Sera states,

"Paradise is open to all creatures": thus Pope Francis on animals. "The apostle Paul states this explicitly when he says that" the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God '"

and clearly says a little later,

Francis is preparing an encyclical 'greening' the protection of Creation. Certainly the issue is recurring and sometimes controversial, in the Church. It is said that Paul VI had comforted a child in tears for the death of his dog and said: "One day we will review our animals in the eternity of Christ." 

This article was written on 27 November 2014.  The English language articles were published starting on 11 December 2014.  That's two weeks worth of time to get the story correct.  As if that isn't enough, the Paul VI quote was written of in 2008 at La Stampa and Corriere della Sera as well as in a 2010 book, La Leggende del Ponte Arcobaleno (Legends of the Rainbow Bridge).  We at Call Me Jorge... found all this in several minutes by using an internet search engine, surely there must be more out there.

What's going on here?

We have no idea.  One can read Francis' prepared remarks for his general audience of 26 October 2014 or watch Rome Reports' piece on his audience below.  Do you dear reader see where any of this 'confusion' came from?





It says something that a reporter writes a story which isn't sourced and has several glaring mistakes in it.  These mistakes repudiate Catholic theology and Novus Ordo prelates take it at face value that Francis actually said these things.  None of these prelates is surprised but they take or argue different sides of the statement.  In our opinion, that's the story!


The media shifts the blame to Corriere della Sera, when it is clearly their own fault.

Since we had written this entry (but not published it on Call Me Jorge...), the NY Times came out with this retraction:

Correction: December 12, 2014

An earlier version of this article misstated the circumstances of Pope Francis’ remarks. He made them in a general audience at the Vatican, not in consoling a distraught boy whose dog had died. The article also misstated what Francis is known to have said. According to Vatican Radio, Francis said: “The Holy Scripture teaches us that the fulfillment of this wonderful design also affects everything around us,” which was interpreted to mean he believes animals go to heaven. Francis is not known to have said: “One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.'’ (Those remarks were once made by Pope Paul VI to a distraught child, and were cited in a Corriere della Sera article that concluded Francis believes animals go to heaven.) An earlier version also referred incompletely to the largest animal protection group in the United States. It is the Humane Society of the United States, not just the Humane Society.

And today 13 December 2014, Crux News republished ,  Pope Francis says all dogs go to heaven? Not so fast by David Gibson of Religion News Service.

When Pope Francis recently sought to comfort a distraught boy whose dog had died, the pontiff took the sort of pastoral approach he is famous for — telling the youngster not to worry, that he would one day see his pet in heaven.

“Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures,” Francis said reassuringly.

It was a sparkling moment on a rainy November day, and the setting in St. Peter’s Square only burnished Francis’ reputation as a kindly “people’s pope.” The story naturally lit up social media, became instant promotional material for vegetarians and animal rights groups, and on Friday even made it to the front page of The New York Times.

There’s only one problem: apparently none of it ever happened.

Yes, a version of that quotation was uttered by a pope, but it was said decades ago by Paul VI, who died in 1978. There is no evidence that Francis repeated the words during his public audience on Nov. 26, as has been widely reported, nor was there was a boy mourning his dead dog.

So how could such a fable so quickly become taken as fact?

Part of the answer may be the topic of the pope’s talk to the crowd that day, which centered on the End Times and the transformation of all creation into a “new heaven” and a “new earth.” Citing St. Paul in the New Testament, Francis said that is not “the annihilation of the cosmos and of everything around us, but the bringing of all things into the fullness of being.”

The trail of digital bread crumbs then appears to lead to an Italian news report that extended Francis’ discussion of a renewed creation to the question of whether animals too will go to heaven.

“One day we will see our pets in the eternity of Christ,” the report quoted Paul VI as telling a disconsolate boy years ago.

The story was titled, somewhat misleadingly: “Paradise for animals? The Pope doesn’t rule it out.” It wasn’t clear which pope the writer meant, however.

The next day, Nov. 27, a story in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera by veteran Vaticanista Gian Guido Vecchi pushed the headline further: “The Pope and pets: “Paradise is open to all creatures.”

Vecchi faithfully recounted the pope’s talk about a new creation, and also cited Paul VI’s remark.

But the headline put those words in Francis’ mouth, and that became the story.

The Italian version of the Huffington Post picked it up next and ran an article quoting Francis as saying “We will go to heaven with the animals” and contending that the pope was quoting St. Paul – not Pope Paul – as making that statement to console a boy who lost his dog. (That story, by the way, is nowhere in the Bible.)

The urban legend became unstoppable a week later when it was translated into English and picked up by the British press,which cited St. Paul as saying that “One day we will see our animals again in (the) eternity of Christ,” while it has Francis adding the phrase: “Paradise is open to all God’s creatures.”

Fueling the meme was the fact that Francis was photographed accepting a gift of two donkeys from a company promoting the use of donkey milk for infants allergic to cow’s milk – and Francis said his own mother gave him donkey’s milk as a baby.

Social media and other media outlets then picked up the story, further conflating the statements and the chronology. It became a hot mess of a story that was also sparking another theological debate by a pope who was known for prompting controversy.

When The New York Times went with the story, along with input from ethicists and theologians, it became gospel truth.

Television programs discussed the pope’s theological breakthrough, news outlets created photo galleries of popes with cute animals, and others used it as a jumping off point to discuss what other religions think about animals and the afterlife. At America magazine, the Rev. James Martin wrote an essay discussing the theological implications of Francis’ statements and what level of authority they may have. It was all very interesting and illuminating, but based on a misunderstanding.

A number of factors probably contributed to this journalistic train wreck:

• The story had so much going for it: Francis took his papal name from St. Francis of Assisi, the patron saint of environmentalism who famously greeted animals as brothers and sisters.
• Pope Francis is also preparing a major teaching document on the environment, and almost since the day he was elected in 2013 he has stressed the Christian duty to care for creation.
• Francis also blessed a blind man’s guide dog shortly after he was elected, an affecting image that was often used in connection with these latest reports of his concern for animals.
• Moreover, the media and the public are so primed for Francis to say novel things and disregard staid customs that the story was too good to check out; it fit with the pattern.

In most accounts, Francis’ comments were also set against statements by his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who insisted that animals did not have souls. That apparent contrast fit a common narrative pitting the more conservative Benedict against the ostensibly liberal Francis.

That may be true in some areas, but probably not when it comes to animals.

Adding insult to injury, the Times article cited St. John Paul II as saying in 1990 that animals have souls and are “as near to God as men are.” But that, too, was a misquote, as media critic Dawn Eden explained at the website GetReligion.

On the other hand, there should have been warnings signs: Francis has frowned at the modern tendency to favor pets over people, and he has criticized the vast amounts of money spent by wealthy societies on animals even as children go hungry.

In addition, the pope’s huge popularity has led to at least one other instance of myth-making: news reports last year said that Francis was sneaking out of the Vatican at night to feed the homeless around Rome.

The pope personally debunked that rumor in an interview last March, saying the idea “has never crossed my mind” and that “depicting the pope to be a sort of superman, a type of star, seems offensive to me.”

Maybe he’ll have to give another interview to deflate this latest story, and to offer his real thoughts on pets and paradise.