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“Our situation is now as follows: first, and I can give you statements from Rome that say very clearly that the Society is not schismatic. So we are Catholics and the modern church recognizes us as Catholics. But they say there is something irregular because you do not have canonical status. And they do not want to give us this canonical status before we say that the new Mass is good and the council is good. And we're not going to say it, so we're stuck here. At the same time, you have heard that the Pope gave us the power to confess everyone. Everyone can come with us, not only our faithful, everybody, and the priest has the power to give confession. This is true also for the Last Rights, that is for the Extreme Unction, and recently we have also, in a curious way, the power for marriages. It is even more than that. Just to show you that even if there are certain things which are not yet complete, on the other side many things that are already written down, where Rome is accepting us as Catholics. I give you some examples. For example, if a priest is doing very, very bad, so he needs to be punished. And so the superior, which was myself, I contact Rome and say I'm sorry one of our priests did a big thing and several time Rome did appoint myself as the judge of the case. So I think tribunal know in the name of Rome on one or several of our priests even one times they appointed me as the tribunal of second instance what is Rome made the judgement, the priest appealed against this decision from Rome, and Rome didn't recognize that they made a mistake, and they asked me to be the second judge for that case. How can this be if we are not Catholics? You see? Here we have examples in real life which shows that they consider us as Catholics. Though they say that everything is not yet finished. It is true, we all recognize that. We all say who made the first mistake?”
— conference with Bp. Fellay, St. Joseph Priory, Davao City, Mindanao, Philippines, (3 September 2018).
Break out the champagne, the modernists recognize the FSSPX as one of their own!
So much for not collaborating with Modernist Rome...
Bishop Fellay is the Superior General since 1994 of the SSPX founded by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1970. He exhibits in this interview the spirituality of the Society of St. Pius X and an update on the relations of the Society with the Holy See. After the lastest meetings between the Pope and Bishop Fellay, which resulted in new proposals, there seems to be no more than a "stamp" to conclude an agreement. This agreement is possible, according to the Superior General, in his view, without waiting for the situation in the Church to become completely satisfactory.
Bp. Fellay has until July 2018 to sign the deal with Rome, when his second 12 year term as Superior General of the FSSPX finishes.
“things are moving in the right direction. Rome has started to become more lenient over the last few years.”
“For the Jubilee Year I had also granted that those faithful who, for various reasons, attend churches officiated by the priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, can validly and licitly receive the sacramental absolution of their sins.[15]For the pastoral benefit of these faithful, and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s help for the recovery of full communion in the Catholic Church, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone ever be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon.”
ENGLISH (Translation by Non Possumus, Please feel free to make any contribution to it)
THE SITE FELLAYCIST "to true Christianity," POSTED TODAY HAS A VIDEO, RECORDED LAST NOVEMBER, IN WHICH THE TOP OF THE SPEAKS OUT SSPX.
Excerpt of the sayings of Bishop Fellay (Subtitles are ours)
ROME REDUCED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN AGREEMENT
At the beginning of July, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has again made a proposal to the Society, the interesting thing is esta That proposal has eliminated the two conditions in September two years early.
Then, They do not ask us to say That the New Mass is licit and do not ask Either to Recognize That the Council is Traditional.
"ROME NO LONGER WANTS TO IMPOSE MODERNISM"
There are interesting points in esta discussion: first, They Recognize us as Catholics.Second, we are Told That are open issues (religious freedom, ecumenism, new mass, collegiality).
If They Say These Things are open, It Means That They Have renounced to impose.For me, this is the first step to, finally, after a long time, reach the condemnation of These Things.
WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL ROME EVEN 100 YEARS THE CURRENT MODERNIST Condemns ERRORS.
For many years Rome will not say That this is an error. Within 100 years Maybe They Will say so, as (in the case of) the condemnation of Honorius.
ALSO, THE SSPX REDUCES ITS CONDITIONS TO ONLY ONE "TO ACCEPT US AS WE ARE"
What are we going to do With This proposal? It Seems to me impossible. It's impossible to Work With them. What I do now is to say to Rome: the only one, the sine qua non to accept a recognition -which is normally Because We're Catholics- is to accept us as we are condition.
The Liturgical ISSUE COMES FIRST, THE DOCTRINE IS postponed. THE SSPX RENOUNCES TO FIGHT FOR THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST.
What does it mean "as we are"? Means it than we will never say the new mass, we will never concelebrate, we will never give the communion in the hand, we will never give communion in the new mass; and the Opposed, we will say to the people to do not Attend the new mass, do not to take communion in the hand, we will say to priest That's Necessary to examine it to find out if They are priest or not.
That I think to say to Rome That must be enough (for them) to say no. But we say: "If you do not agree With That, do not worth to move ahead Because We're not going to change".
CLEAR NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE. Merely THE SSPX WILL REACT TO ROME'S INITIATIVES.
I think this is going to stop anything for a while.
With the current Pope, WHO goes from one surprise to another, it seems, to me impossible to predict the future.
Again, BP. FELLAY SEES "SPRING BUDS"
Already there are some Bishops starting to approach us saying "we need you".
And Then They are beginning to ask for our help, for example, preaching the retreats for the diocese 'priests.
This Road I think will continue. Little by little we will help the Bishops, priests, to return to Tradition.
It certainly seems like the FSSPX & the Vatican have at the very least an 'understanding' with each other.
"Now, sometimes, unfortunately, also priests do silly things, and they need to be punished. And when it is very, very serious, we have to make recourse to Rome. So we do. And what does the Congregation of the Faith do? Well, they did appoint me as the judge for this case. So I was appointed by Rome, by the Congregation of the Faith, to make judgements, canonical Church judgements on some of our priests who belong to a non-existent Society for them. And so, once again, a beautiful contradiction indeed."
Bernard Fellay's sermon of 10 May 2015
at 35 min 10 sec in the above video
What we at Call Me Jorge... find interesting is the FSSPX's silence in criticizing Francis' heresies while at the same time being disobedient/obedient to him depending on their whim. Another "beautiful contradiction" as Fellay would say. And also, don't forget the silence of the recent scandals of Max Krah not only by the FSSPX but by former members of the society. We guess when all parties have Zionists pulling their strings, small details like this are often overlooked.
"Pope Francis who seems to be so opposed to tradition and he talks that way, he said to Cardinal Castrillón, about us "I will never hurt the Society." He said to one of our priests, "I will never prevent people from to go to to to the Society." And that's what we experience all the time."
Fellay on Francis (10 May 2015)
at 38 min 44 sec in the above video
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